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Mencor
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Yes, they won't get past the Gran mur, AKA the wall, so there is no problem. Somewhat different but similar enough, the germans thought it a good idea to attack soviet without preparing winter gear, since they would finnish the invasion before winter. Miltary is not immune to incompetence. |
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MFrontier
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I think the thing with Shin is he comes off very stoic and passive, but you see stuff like his reaction when Kaie reveals why he doesn't file reports or when he throws his buddy under the bus while they're talking to Lena that shows there's more to him than that. |
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Electric Wooloo
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If they won't get past the wall anyways why not lock the 86 out and let the legion kill them without them being able to fight back and not give them weapons for this whole charade? If the wall is a fool proof plan why have the autonomous (not actually autonomous) mechs? Military's aren't immune from incompetence certainly, but there's a basic level of preparedness one would expect is what I'm saying. |
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blahmoomoo
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I would guess that the Alba weren't all on board with being racist at first (the 85 districts weren't made that long ago), and just leaving the 86 out to die would be incredibly obvious genocide, leading to those who aren't entirely on board to question, protest, etc. In order to get the general public to turn racist toward the 86, war provides many opportunities for such propaganda. And the current situation lets a lot of 86 die as war casualties, hiding away the actual genocide. Perhaps before the wall was built, there was an actual war effort that had competent leadership and resources. Perhaps with the 86 as the primary soldier force. But now that the wall exists, less effort is needed. And pulling back the resources leads to more casualties in battles that don't really need to be won for the Alba, but the 86 need to win to survive outside of the wall. It also seems to me that cutting back on what the Alba commanders have available to them is a way to reduce the chance that the commanders will start caring for the 86 soldiers: no video feeds, no profile pictures, just blips on a grid and vital stats. I suppose it isn't clear why, in the way I'm guessing this system works, Alba commanders are even needed. All I can guess is that it could be theater to show Alba are leading the war ("controlling" the "AI bots"), but there's probably information missing that will reveal a better reason. |
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Key
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There's actually a reason for the "no video feeds," but the adaptation has skipped over explaining it. (It's the one true deficiency in the adaptation so far.) It has to do with the nature of the Para-RAIDS that are used for communication purposes. I'll put this in spoiler tags, because it's theoretically possible that it might get explained next episode. (Unless the adaptation gets very creative, a big upcoming twist will make less sense without this.) spoiler[Those butterfly-type Legion seen in episode 2 generate EM jamming, which makes conventional means of contact difficult. Amongst conventional communications, only laser-targeted ones work, and as Shin pointed out in episode 2, those have dangers to their use as well. The Para-RAID gets around that by tapping into the vast field of human subconsciousness and transmitting messages that way.] As for the rest of the recent discussion, remember that walls aren't infallible (see Attack on Titan), so someone in the remaining military brass has enough sense to realize that keeping the Legion from getting to the wall - so they don't figure out a way to get past it - is for the best. And hey, if you can get rid of despised minorities in the process, all the better, right? As for the review of episode 3, I always find it interesting to see what other reviewers notice in scenes that I don't. For instance, in the two depictions of the Lena/Spearhead conversation, I concentrated more on how Lena wasn't correctly understanding the dynamic going on (and how the episode shows that), while Callum picked up more on the solo-vs-many differential. |
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Mami-kouga
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Oh there definitely a few hints in his interactions with others that give me hope in regards to him. But right now it's a bit too subtle so I'm still not sure how to feel towards him as a whole. |
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Electric Wooloo
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spoiler[ I swear if this is another anime that misunderstands and misuses the term Collective unconscious... ] |
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Abraham Omosun
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This show really reminds me of Gundam IBO especially that scene with Shin in Ep 1 that almost exactly happened in ep 2 of IBO. I was honestly expecting "Raise your Flag" to start playing as the OP . The direction and animation are solid, the mechs are cool and the cast interactions are funny (AND damn did they rip Lena a new one at the end) though I will be lying if I didn't expect the other shoe to drop when it comes to its handling of racism. I don't know what direction the story/plot is going but I am cutiously optimistic that this will be my favorite anime this season (or at least a very good show)
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addie98
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Please don’t think too deeply on the particularities of the Sensory Resonance theory or any other weapons that appear in this work. They may be modified later on if need be. The collective unconscious idea in particular is one I intentionally misinterpreted for the sake of the story. Asato - The Author [Moderator's Note: ANN has sent a tweet to the real Asato Asato asking him to confirm whether or not this message was actually written by them. We have not received a reply. Until we receive a reply, the claim that this poster is Asato Asato should not be considered verified.] |
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MFrontier
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The latest episode did a really good job of expanding on a much smaller gap of time in the novels to build up to when Lena pushes herself to connect with Shin to ask their names. Made it an even more powerful and emotional moment.
I wonder if more of this stuff might be planned for the future to stretch volume 1 out so they can finish it within this cour. spoiler[Also did some nice foreshadowing for certain character moments in the future] |
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Electric Wooloo
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Best episode so far in my opinion. Some good character development on both sides, foreshadowing/hinting at some things like spoiler[ Shin's brother almost certainly being the one person who saved Lena from the helicopter, ] and the fleshing out of the world and some of Spearhead in such a simple way (By introducing us to the Fox Commander, without ever actually showing him. Just stories of him and how people remember him.).
This series is at it's best when all of the flashy mechs are pushed to the side and we get into the nitty-gritty of the character's personal relations and perspectives. |
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Zefram
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Well, if we compare this to Nazi Germany (from which this show pulls a lot of inspiration), Ghettos were created and used only for 5-6 years, and by end of that period, German population didn't question where their neighbors vanished to or how they were dealt with by authorities, how fair or unfair it was that Jews were deprived of their German citizenship, property and possessions and murdered, and weren't considered even human, normal German citizens just didn't think or care about it. You can literally count less than two dozen German people that tried to help Jews. There were several well known episodes after Allies invaded Germany, when they called in neighboring German towns populace (located less than 10 miles away from concentration camps) and ALL of these people claimed they didn't know what was happening in those camps, that there were Jews in that camp. Allied soldiers forced the whole towns residents to tour those camps, and those people till their dying days claimed they had no idea. So, 9 years and whole country population taught to believe that 86 are sub-human and no longer part of the country? Pretty believable to me. |
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7777ale7777
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I noticed that the opening was updated to remove the character that died the previous episode and to place them in a field with what I assume are more dead characters. And that's ominous because, well, there seems to be a lot of room in that field...
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SilverTalon01
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This line from the review makes me thing I misunderstood something in the exposition dump. Was the current situation not a result of the invasion by the AI army that started 9 years ago? I swear Lena mentioned something about how it wasn't always this way. Anyway, I guess I'm not as excited by the last episode as most people. It felt extra slow to me. Even with the wasted bath(?) time in episode 3, it felt like a lot happened compared to 4. The SoL part was clearly setup for the heavy dose of reality at the end. Ep 4 felt important, but it also felt like half an episode. Speaking of that bathing section of ep 3, I didn't really get the point of the peeping in the bath type scene considering everyone was wearing uniforms. I don't think there needed to be a fan service scene at all but playing it as a super cliche peeping on the girls in the hot spring felt really off. I still get why they would be annoyed at getting spied on, but what in the hell were they even hiding to look at... |
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Key
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Nice catch, as that detailed had slipped by me. As for how ominous that is, the series has already dropped hints about who will and won't survive if you know what to look for. However, catching the hints at this point will probably either require having read the novel or watching through this again after the series ends. |
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