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Horsefellow
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How are you getting that from my post? I'm saying doing something illegal is not the same thing as doing something an individual might find morally wrong but is otherwise perfectly legal. Nothing Chiaki Konaka did was illegal, why would he be comparable to someone like Megumi Igarashi or any other artist who broke actual laws and were punished for doing so. I'm simply saying "freedom of expression" isn't going to protect you when you break the law. These are non-partisan issues and have nothing to do with right vs left.
I don't like those laws either and I'd love for porn to be uncensored personally, but if people are going to compare breaking that law to reading a blog or saying political correctness is bad then that's absurd. Is this really about Igarashi being arrested while Konaka wasn't? What crime should Konaka be charged with, exactly? |
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ATastySub
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It only reads that way if you once again completely ignore the reality and want to believe in some idea of western boogeymaning. Seeing how the criticism of it (from both inside and outside Japan) was that he's gone down a rabbit hole of those beliefs this response is simply continuing that trend of pretending that the only people who care are the same people he decried in the weirdly placed rant. From his response "When the pandemic started, I stopped opening Twitter for about a year. I also stopped watching CNN/US, which I had subscribed to on cable to see what was really going on. And I've been reading what independent alternative journalists are gathering from open sources, referring to links as I go. In my personal opinion, COVID-19 is of course real, even if SARS-CoV-2 has not been isolated and segregated. In 2020, the number of applicants in the total population of Japan is lower than in 2019. In 2021, the phase has changed (and the vaccine supply has started). I was frustrated by the exclusion of alternative journalists from the major platforms, and by the fact that the counter perspective was hidden. I think that my feelings were reflected in Yamaki's strong words. However, the situation had changed between the time I wrote the scenario in early spring and August 1. This is not so much about Japan as it is about the new difficulties that countries around the world are facing. So, it was no longer timely to send out messages to the rest of the world. There were people who accused me of having a particular label. I've never expressed any particular political beliefs. There was no anime that brought more diversity to that era than "Digimon Tamers". So I was sad, but don't worry. As I mentioned earlier, my plan "2020" has already been cancelled." Konaka is treating the criticism as an attempt to get a future project cancelled. Which it isn't. It's a reaction to his endorsing harmful conspiracy theories. Which he even acknowledges he still holds in this portion of the response. He's also misrepresenting by saying that people are upset he's a COVID denialist when he's not so all their objections must be false. When the reality of the issue isn't that he strictly denies COVID (though again even in his response he claims it hasn't been isolated, which it has, and is another anti vaccine talking point), but that he follows and promotes conspiracies that claim it's a Chinese Bioweapon, the only way to stop it is to consume bleach, avoid vaccines, and all plethora of other harmful misinformation. As for his claim that he has no label or never expressed political beliefs I addressed that in a previous post. It doesn't matter what he claims when his actions clearly show his beliefs. Either he's as wilfully obtuse in those statements as the COVID ones above, or he's convinced himself that holding such views are "non-political" which is obviously false. This entire statement is responding to a reality that didn't happen in order to continue peddling the false reality he believes. |
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lightturner
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I support you Konaka-san. I am sorry you were harassed |
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Mr. slicer
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Unless he someone negotiated complete creative control over hypothetical Tamers TV or film followup his over the top views would have been held in check. |
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Ming Yi
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I'm confused? Because I've heard arguments that "political correctness" is a Western issue... so which is it? |
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juaifan
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You are correct in principle but Japan and America have very different values. A lot of the things English speaking fandoms try to cancel Japanese artists over are not seen as controversial in Japan which is why it comes off as if Japan has no social consequences. Many American celebrities promote and brag about doing drug which but in Japan even being suspected of doing that would be absolutely career destroying. Conversely, some of the biggest Japanese artists out there can openly hold biggoted views that would be considered career destroying in America with no real pushback or social consequence. Even if Mr. Konaka is guilty of promote far right views the right wing have been in power in Japan for decades to the point the Japan is often referred to as a one-party country so why would there be any issue with that? |
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Replica_Rabbit
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It's so frustrating for people to fall into the rabbit hole, I understand it is easy to believe that there a puppet master that causes everything bad to happen can feel nice. But it will lead you to dark places and in the long run, it will hurt more people than help.
I think we need to educate people on how to spot nonsense on the internet since I am really tired of seeing people just falling into the abyss. Anyway, I am glad he apologized but the damage has been done. Also, can we stop calling people who fall into the abyss bad? They are not bad, they are just wrong and probably need help. The bad people are the ones who push this nonsense, just to make a quick buck Edit: Thank you, @Thatguy3331. My phone autocorrect me and I didn't notice Last edited by Replica_Rabbit on Mon Aug 09, 2021 2:58 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Thatguy3331
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minor, but I think you mean spot instead of spout. |
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dm
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Konaka's always been fruitcake-adjacent. Yoshitoshi Abe and Yasayuki Ueda modeled UFO-nut Chiaki in NieA_7 on Konaka. |
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Vanadise
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> Complains about "Cancel Culture"
> "I will delete any comments that accuse me of being a bad person." Well, that's disappointing, but I dunno what else I expected. At least this isn't the worst revelation that's ever come out about the writer behind a beloved classic series... |
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Animeking1108
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When did Digimon turn into South Park?
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BonusStage
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Around 1999 when they introduced FuhrurAgumon. Digimon's been doing this for a long, long time. I'm surprised Konaka gave these people the time of day since most creators usually don't care what overseas fans think. But I guess he genuinely dislikes discourse and wanted to say something on record. I admire his integrity. His comment about not supporting everything people he follows says is important to me. I've seen so many people eat their own at the slightest hint of stepping out of line and failing some kind of ideological purity test. Like, these are probably the kind of people who routinely check who you follow on social media then confront you and tell you to unfollow the people they dislike. Reminds me when people got upset Yoko Taro follows a lot of "alt right" anime and video game YouTubers, or how Square Enix embraced Asmongold with open arms. Do people really only surround themselves with people they 100% agree on everything with? That sounds exhausting |
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Replica_Rabbit
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No, I have friends who are conservative who I don't agree with are still friends with them. It exhausting when people confuse nonsense with opinions that should be respected. Anyway, I don't really care about Yoko Taro or Asmongold thing. This is on a different level if Yoko Taro make a video game about those Youtubers then I would have a problem |
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bleachj0j
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Some people have to realize that Japan doesn't exist in it's own cultural bubble. Konaka himself is admittedly influence by American culture wars. It's people projecting their world view on the entire country that it's a paradise of people who hate Shonen Jump Weekly's and political correctness. So I'm not sure why to some he's immune to takes on things he's said by American fans. Anyway, Konka basically took the most non-evasive approach to this.
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