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NEWS: Netflix Establishes 'Anime Creators' Base' at Tokyo Office

MarshalBanana wrote:

but when you are drawing really simple designs and they hardly move, it's easy to make a ton of drawings in a day and get a decent wage.

What are these 'simple designs' that you're talking about? Anpanman? Even in the 1980s and 1990s, many anime characters did have complicated designs and they did move around quite a bit.

Ok sure, but I'm talking way back, like 1960s.

Ok sure, but I'm talking way back, like 1960s.

(Why can't it be ok to like both?)
I do not hate western cartoons, I do not even care about them, just saying that western cartoons are like Japanese animes in terms of quality is disrespectful to anime and hard work of Japanese animators
In the case of Japanese work culture, this is about Japan and the Japanese people. Why do some Americans think they have the right to tell people in other countries what is right and what is wrong? In Japan, hard work is a source of pride for them
Also, I never said that all anime is a masterpiece, but at least in a year, a lot of masterpiece anime is made, unlike the West, which still does not have a single masterpiece cartoon.
Also, if you think Western animators have a good work environment and a good salary, then why haven't they made a quality show like violet evergarden or demon slayer yet?
The best western cartoon right now is Castlevania, which hardly comes close to the quality of ordinary anime (which, of course, was made with the help of a South Korean studio and is not entirely American)

Something not brought up yet that is a big difference between anime studios and American animation is there is more options for unionized American animation work while anime studios are largely freelance work and there's less opportunities for anime staff to bargain for workers' rights and compensation. The term "masterpiece" is overly bloated and purely subjective but there have been plenty of well respected high quality American animated series produced in recent years like Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, Infinity Train, She-Ra, the Ducktales reboot, and The Owl House to name a few.

guess it depends who you're asking because those shows are generally the ones I see cited as the reason why American animation is currently lacking compared to Japan or the old days of American animation from the 90s and 00s and seem to be looked down upon where I look. Most of those are lumped in as the CalArts-style people dislike. The people who miss serious, action-based animation haven't been happy in ages because those kinds of shows are no longer being made outside of Japan. The last one we got was... Young Justice?

As far as Netflix and this studio goes, I have no real opinion on them. Most Netflix original series I've seen have been pretty mediocre, but I'll always judge a show individually rather than through association. I did like Aggretsuko, although given the way Netflix markets their stuff I have no idea if it's an actual Netflix anime or just a series they licensed. Although I would not expect Netflix to have better working conditions than any other studio. I'm pretty sure we've already heard from directors who worked on projects for them that they're no better.

Ok, I just need to say it. The Cal arts style is not real. Its something angry people with nothing better to do in life made up. These are just vastly different art styles. Also, Young justice is old. More recent action shows can be the various DC shows, castlevania, Seis Manos, the dragon prince, among others. Only steven Universe would count towards this "Cal-arts style". She-ra is heavily anime inspired, and inifinity train is its own thing as well. I won't act like these series are better, but I also don't believe that you should judge a show based on art style. Especially when the average Isekai has serious designs, but poor writing. The animation in these shows can still be quite impressive with their "limited" art-style, like Infinity train. Even Japanese animators have worked on these projects. A animator for Trigger worked on a steven Universe episode.

Young Justice Outsiders came out in 2019 it's not that old.. The fourth season, Phantoms, has been scheduled to come out Soon™ on HBO Max. The only other current DC cartoons I know are Harley Quinn which is pure comedy and the upcoming Aquaman one that has one of the ugliest art styles I've ever seen in my life and is also a comedy and looks more in line with the kids shows on television. I don't know how to discussion veered off into American animation but the way current American animation is one of the reasons I got so into anime. I'd much rather watch an average isekai anime over Steven Universe, She-Ra or The Owl House since I'm an adult dude in my 20s and not a little girl so thats just to be expected. I don't like those kinds of shows and those are all that seem to be made anymore.

When did this became a discussion about the quality of Western cartoons and Anime?

r4737 wrote:

I talked about Netflix because this is the only Netflix to make PowerPoint If the animators do not work hard, the result will be Western cartoons That's why I criticize big companies like Netflix for not paying them enough

Ok. I know its an anime site, but please can we stop acting like western cartoons are garbage. Castlevania, the DC stuff, and other cartoons have proven that wrong. I won't act like cartoons are better animated, but I have seen cartoons that can look just as good as some anime. Also, at least these garbage western cartoons have animators that are paid well and don't overwork themselves to death. I hate Netflix not paying as much, but Japan's own studios are no better.

japan's laws doesn't give japanese anime studios enough ways of earning money so they're always in state of closing and which is what made not pay their animators when they had declines of profit so japan must fix this it's the most obstacle which lower the anime industry's potential

japan's laws doesn't give japanese anime studios enough ways of earning money so they're always in state of closing and which is what made not pay their animators when they had declines of profit so japan must fix this it's the most obstacle which lower the anime industry's potential