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CelestialEmpress
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:57 pm
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So like, the best case scenario for what happened is that, as a 21-year old adult, his sexual relationship with a high school sophomore was consensual? That's...really not the slam-dunk rebuttal he seems to think it is. "Creeping on this child was technically not a crime" is still a massive red flag.
I don't know these people and I know even less about the law, so my opinion on withdrawing the allegations doesn't honestly mean anything. Still, I'm getting the vibe that it's more to do with him deciding that the mental, emotional, and financial burdens involved wouldn't be worth it to pursue things further. That's totally understandable; it took a huge amount of strength to come forward in the first place, and going forward with an actual lawsuit would have meant revealing his identity. After the trashfire we saw happen with Vic Mcnugget, I don't think anyone could be blamed for wanting to avoid that kind of shitshow.
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DollLifeDan
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:58 pm
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Operation silence victim was a success. Funimation/Crunchyroll will not punish him in anyway nor will they let him go like people have been saying they will. The English dubbing industry is sadly very filthy like this. One of the many reasons I refuse to watch or support dubs.
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Ryuji-Dono
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:08 pm
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DollLifeDan wrote: | Operation silence victim was a success. Funimation/Crunchyroll will not punish him in anyway nor will they let him go like people have been saying they will. The English dubbing industry is sadly very filthy like this. One of the many reasons I refuse to watch or support dubs. |
Ahem, Vic Mignogna, Illich Guardiola, Scott Freeman got the boot, and this won't be any different. Not to pin on everything on the likes of him.
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WhiteOrochi
Joined: 01 Apr 2009
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:17 pm
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I'm almost speechless. Almost. Just when I thought some real justice was going to be served, the victim caves. Sons of bitches industry has sunken to a new low.
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penguintruth
Joined: 08 Dec 2004
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:25 pm
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The messages are the messages. He’s lost credibility.
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InuNaruPokeAlchemist
Joined: 10 Sep 2009
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:25 pm
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I wish I knew what to think, aside from the fact I have been trying to undo liking certain voice actors. As I was a Vic fan until the accusations about him were made public. In the two times I met Daman Mills he was nothing but kind to me. It just really sucks that every time I end up liking a character (ex. Kagari in Psycho-Pass) the VA ends up being a creep. Atleast in the case of Freeman Should they ever dub the Psycho-Pass Sinners of the System films, we'd have a new voice for Kagari for flashbacks, since he's kinda dead.
But at the end of the day. I really need to learn to separate the art from the artist.
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zrdb
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:42 pm
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Why does this shit remind me of the Kevin Spacey affair, a very talented actor who got banned because he couldn't keep his pecker in his pants where it belonged?
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FunkyDude88
Joined: 01 Oct 2021
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:46 pm
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Ryuji-Dono wrote: |
DollLifeDan wrote: | Operation silence victim was a success. Funimation/Crunchyroll will not punish him in anyway nor will they let him go like people have been saying they will. The English dubbing industry is sadly very filthy like this. One of the many reasons I refuse to watch or support dubs. |
Ahem, Vic Mignogna, Illich Guardiola, Scott Freeman got the boot, and this won't be any different. Not to pin on everything on the likes of him. |
I don't think those are at all comparable. Guardiola and Freeman were literally convicted of sex with a minor/child porn/actual crimes. Mignogna and Mills have not been convicted of anything, only accused. The main difference between Mignogna and Mills is Mignogna not only apologized which people took as an admission of guilt, he also sued his former employer, which even if he won was going to get him blacklisted anyway since people don't like folks who rock the boat in this industry. Mills could easily scoot past this if he plays his cards right. I'll be the one to say it: gay men tend to get the benefit of the doubt in these situations. James Charles has been in this situation many times and nothing ever comes out of it. Maybe it's because people don't consider male victims all that serious as female victims. All I can say is I wouldn't be suppressed if nothing comes out of this in the end. I haven't seen anywhere near as big of a stink over this as I did Mignogna, so it sounds like most industry people and fans don't seem to care all that much to begin with.
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Meowtain Duwu
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:54 pm
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Another reminder that you never truly know celebrities or any other public figure in general beyond what they choose to share to the public. That is, until any skeletons in the closet they may have are revealed for all to see.
Heck, this applies to anyone, even to people you know. Be careful with who you choose to trust. I’m just shy of turning 20 but I’ve already learned this lesson pretty quickly in my life.
The more I hear about people’s true colors being shown, the less I am surprised. And a case like this one is far from the last to be reported unfortunately.
Stay safe guys.
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Ming Yi
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:55 pm
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DollLifeDan wrote: | Operation silence victim was a success. Funimation/Crunchyroll will not punish him in anyway nor will they let him go like people have been saying they will. The English dubbing industry is sadly very filthy like this. One of the many reasons I refuse to watch or support dubs. |
You do realize the Japanese voice acting industry can be just as scummy? I remember there were some tweets a while back from a Japanese voice actress (she deleted them) that some of the female voice actresses had an unspoken rule to watch out for each other. Then there's also Hiroko Konishi, who claimed that her manager forced her to take a bath (in the hot springs) with Akitaro Daichi.
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KitKat1721
Joined: 03 Feb 2015
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:12 pm
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InuNaruPokeAlchemist wrote: | I wish I knew what to think, aside from the fact I have been trying to undo liking certain voice actors. As I was a Vic fan until the accusations about him were made public. In the two times I met Daman Mills he was nothing but kind to me. |
I haven't actually met either of the two, but I just wanted to say I get it. I think it's really easy for people who never watch dubs or are vocal about hating them to be all gung-ho and vocal about these situations not only because they know its the right thing to do, but because it's so easy and has no effect on the media they watch. Obviously there are fans where news like this immediately angers them on the victim's behalf, not saying there aren't. But this stuff can hit us hard or we need to take an extra moment to come to terms with it, and that's okay. I fully admit I genuinely enjoyed a lot of Daman's performances and thought he was a talented guy with more range than most. Hell, I'm pretty sure I've said as much on these forums at some point. And I think if you pay attention to the VA scene, it's easy to tell if someone is actually respected or liked by their fellow peers or not - it's not a giant industry after all, even if it is getting bigger year after year.
But I also know for a fact that I don't actually know any of these people in real life, even if I had met them briefly at a convention, and just because I liked their performances as an actor means nothing compared to how their actions affected someone else in real life. At the end of the day, it's important for fans to remember those two things, even if getting to that point is harder for them than others - people's lives matter the most. I know how incredibly difficult it is to come forward even without the looming threat of publicity or legal action, and I know people that never did under fear of less. And I've said it before a couple comments above, but I trust ANN's reporting on these matters.
Sorry if this is a bit rambling or too far off your initial point. I've pretty much only discussed this news here and on some very specific dub-centric servers because I only feel comfortable doing so in these spaces (unlike say, twitter where even I've gotten a couple awful, scary DMs with my low ~70 follower count for speaking out in the past (and thus changing my pfp from my face to a nondescript puffin).
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The Not so Chosen One
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:19 pm
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Oh well, more people didn't need to come forward after all acusing Daman, since this guy can prove he's an overall, utter and vile scumbag all by himself.
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crazieanimefan1
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:22 pm
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InuNaruPokeAlchemist wrote: | I wish I knew what to think, aside from the fact I have been trying to undo liking certain voice actors. As I was a Vic fan until the accusations about him were made public. In the two times I met Daman Mills he was nothing but kind to me. It just really sucks that every time I end up liking a character (ex. Kagari in Psycho-Pass) the VA ends up being a creep. Atleast in the case of Freeman Should they ever dub the Psycho-Pass Sinners of the System films, we'd have a new voice for Kagari for flashbacks, since he's kinda dead.
But at the end of the day. I really need to learn to separate the art from the artist. |
I think I'm in your boat as well. Yet I'm slow to the catch at times. I met Vic, thought he was the nicest person, yet I no longer support him as I understand what being a female victim is like and I support them none than I do a manipulator.
This case is very different. We're not dealing with a typical he said/she did, but this time it's someone who is gay accused of hitting on a straight man. Not only that, this guy had saved everything he could on evidence and only now came out with it and once things got to a head, for a reason we don't know yet, withdrew everything. We've seen the pictures and all. I never met Damon personally, I only knew him from being the late Chris Ayres understudy and heard him on Sarazanmai.
My question is this. This happened in Ohio. Did the guy claiming this (I only say this as we only heard his side, not Mills so far) miss the statue of limitations by putting this out because if he was close to it, I see why he put it all out. If not and allegations are true, is there witness tampering that scared him to withdraw? We don't have the full story. Yet to have saved everything this long makes me wonder why say it now.
I'm not defending anyone. It makes me want to know more, but we're only seeing half the story and Mills isn't doing himself favors by a C&D. It only makes him more suspect.
Edit: I was on my phone when I typed this so the darn autocorrect loves to make me look bad. lol I corrected my spelling.
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ANN_Lynzee
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:29 pm
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FunkyDude88 wrote: | Guardiola and Freeman were literally convicted of sex with a minor/child porn/actual crimes. |
One literally was not. Charges were dropped against Guardiola after the child's parent didn't cooperate and he married her in Nevada.
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ATastySub
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:30 pm
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crazieanimefan1 wrote: | My question is this. This happened in Ohio. Did the guy claiming this (I only say this as we only heard his side, not Mills so far) miss the statue of limitations by putting this out because if he was close to it, I see why he put it all out. If not and allegations are true, is there witness tampering that scared him to withdraw? We don't have the full story. Yet to have saved everything this long males me wonder why say it now. |
It is not out of the statute of limitations, and probably also relevant is that Ohio is not a state with anti-SLAPP laws. This means that Mills both has a very good reason to try and silence this, and that even if he engaged in a unmerited lawsuit to do so, there isn't a way for Duncan to recover damages if it is proved as such.
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