Forum - View topicINTEREST: Man Withdraws Allegations Against Evangelion Voice Actor Daman Mills
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revolutionotaku
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Whether Daman Mills likes it or not, his own actions will be his legacy.
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Cardcaptor Takato
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#icyermc
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The early parts of the thread were going crazy - specially hypothesizing that 'Duncan' was pressured into retracting.
Please do wait until more info or more statements come out about the matter to argue against each other out of respect for both parties - this is still a developing story. Heck, y'all shouldn't even be arguing at all out of respect! ANN Rule 1, everybody. I do agree with part of kazamatsuri's post said, specifically:
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Meowtain Duwu
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Whether or not anything that occurred is classified as statutory rape, at the end of the day, Duncan has made it clear that he never consented to what Daman had (allegedly) done to him. He had repeatedly made his boundaries clear, but Daman didn’t respect them.
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Kendall TV
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Um, did ANN really delete my post, which linked to primary sources that provide additional information about a rape accusation against a voice actor? Seriously? I would have expected that ANN of all places would want to show the sides of both the victim and the assailant and would welcome such supporting documentation:
Shame on you, ANN.
The reason I used the word rape is because that's the word Pridemore used, and when victims say that's what happened we should listen to their words. Even though the accusation turned out to be false in that case, we still shouldn't make a habit out of dancing around it or diminishing it by calling it something else. (What is 'questionable-consent' even supposed to mean anyway? There is either consent or there is not.) Anyhow, I brought up the outcome of Haberkorn's situation not because I was making a case that he should or shouldn't be blacklisted but because I wanted to show that in his situation, producers had access to additional information that they could use to make their decision about whether they want to work with him anymore. In Duncan's case here, it doesn't look like Mills is ready to or wants to speak about the situation from his point of view, which is of course perfectly fine since it's his personal decision. But Mills's actions don't need to have occurred in the studio for producers to decide what to do about him. Employers can use any information about a person's public or private life that they find to decide whether to hire someone (as long as employers are not enforcing the hiring discrimination of protected peoples, of course). In Mills's case, producers might still benefit from additional information coming from Mills himself should he eventually decide to provide it. Otherwise, there's plenty from Duncan and from the way this case is playing out for them to decide how to proceed. Your original comment said 'we have precedent for how this'll potentially affect Daman's career' by comparing it to Haberkorn's situation, and my reply was meant to show that it's so far from 'a 1:1 parallel' that it may not even be a fair comparison due to the stark difference in available information, so it shouldn't be considered precedent-setting. |
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Mirvana
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1 - It was potentially more likely deleted because you had like 7 or 8 links, which they might've considered excessive. 2 - For admitting they reached out for Daman's side (which he didn't provide) and therefore knew the article would lack? Yeah yeah, shame on ANN for having *checks notes* journalistic integrity. 3 - Kind of a self-explanatory phrase I'd think? Consent can be "given" under some circumstances that one might consider dubious or QUESTIONABLE even if not considered outright, immediately objectionable. 4 - Then why are you mad at ANN for not having his side in the article? Just because Daman makes a "personal decision" not to share his side publicly doesn't mean the situation is unworthy of being reported on or an outlet should be ashamed just for doing so. 5 - Correct, which is why I was saying exactly that earlier. MY point was that those companies have no necessity to inform *US* of any decisions they do(n't) make. They don't HAVE to put out a tweet or PR release saying any person was blacklisted/recast/slapped-on-the-wrist if they don't want to. They (or individuals such as directors) can just do those things if they decide. They aren't obligated to share with the rest of the class. 6 - Precedent just means an earlier (read: PRECEDING) scenario used as an example/guide for a later, similar circumstance. It neither requires nor implies a perfect 1:1, 100% comparison. Saying "I'm using Todd and precedent for Daman" is saying "I see similarities between Todd's and Daman's scenarios and am tempering my expectations accordingly", not "These scenarios are exactly the same and I can therefore see into the future somehow". |
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Kadmos1
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I am no legal expert, but what Daman is claimed to have done sounds like sexual assault. I have seen some people on Twitter call him a "pedo". Well, they would be wrong:
Ephebophilia-Attracted to someone between 15-19. Hebephilia-Atrraction to someone that is 11-14. Pedo-Those that are pre-pubescent (typically 10 and younger). a. Being attracted is one thing but acting on it in whatever mediums is/are another. Also, a person claiming to have a #MeToo-type story later withdrawing their claims against the accused is not necessarily an admission that the claimant did a false claim. I can see why a person might think that Duncan was lying by Duncan withdrawing such claims. Personally, I still don't know who to believe. |
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NeverConvex
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Why? They reached out to him and he declined to comment. That's on him, not them. They can't force him to speak to the press.. |
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#icyermc
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Accusations are confirmed false by Duncan himself. See link below for newest info.
Article: animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2022-03-17/man-says-his-allegations-against-daman-mills-were-fabricated/.183728 Thread: animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3172373&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 |
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