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BonusStage
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Threatening suicide is a common tactic abusers employee to keep control over their victims in toxic relationships. It's very damning that Daman Mills would threaten that in an effort to prove that he did not abuse anyone and get people to take down their articles or retract their accusations. Although I suppose it was technically an ADR associate of his that threatened that, which is meant to absolve him of wrong-doing.
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Ocixon
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With this recent revelation, some names are being mentioned as possible suspects in Duncan's doxing by people who like to speculate. One voice actor in particular was mentioned about an hour ago, along with their Facebook posts showing that they were mutuals with Duncan, Daman, and the person whose friends-only posts was used to publicly dox Duncan.
They privated their Facebook minutes ago. That's how closely this story is being monitored. 
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Meowtain Duwu
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That sounds highly suspicious to me. I can only imagine how deep this rabbit hole goes. This whole situation might now take months to completely come to an end. Sounds like we’re all in this for the long haul everyone. |
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KitKat1721
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Forgot to bring this up when backreading but I'll be honest: anytime there's a more controversial/heated post on ANN - I do not even read, let alone engage with, most of the day-old accounts that were created just to talk about this unless there's good reason to (and thankfully you can usually tell within the first couple lines). Especially for news like this. |
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Kendall TV
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This is the most perceptive and informative post in this thread, and maybe in this entire ordeal. Thank you for drawing attention to this. It's upsetting to see outside parties attempt to manipulate what is already a terrible situation. Sorry to hear those parties have caused unnecessary grief to people who are simply trying to do their jobs. I still trust ANN's coverage and I think ANN and the journo handled this the best they could. I wouldn't have wanted, or expected, them to report on this any differently. |
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therjabundo
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This has been a really chaotic and toxic situation. First of all, I wish "Duncan" peace and I hope he gets the justice he deserves. Second, I commend Lynzee and the ANN crew for their hardwork these past several days. Thank you for keeping us all informed and updated.
It is really sickening how Duncan got doxxed, and I am very certain this was committed by someone personally close to Daman. Next, let's talk about the supposed evidence: It has not been credibly proven these screenshots were definitely doctored even as Duncan himself seemed to say so. The evidence presented will remain authentic unless some sort of IT nerd proves it otherwise and verify the view that Duncan is indeed lying. There's another thing very fishy here: It doesn't make sense to me that Duncan, in just a matter of days, would retract his allegations, ask that the article be taken down and declare that it was all fake. Something's just not right. I still do believe he was pressured into being silenced. Speaking of silenced, let's move on to this fellow VA and ADR Director who asked not to be named. Claiming to ANN that Daman was threatening suicide if Duncan didn't retract his allegations and if the article wasn't removed is just alarming and concerning yet suspicious. This director didn't provide evidence (such as text messages or voice mail) that Daman indeed had suicidal tendencies. I just think it was an attempt to protect Daman and blackmail ANN into taking down the article. In the end, I think it would be for the very best if Daman Mills RETIRE from the VO industry. |
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crazieanimefan1
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I think you hit the hammer on the nail, pal. |
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Kadmos1
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Assuming that any of the screen-shots were doctored and that Duncan did indeed pull a false #MeToo-type story, to me the only proper justice would be for Duncan to be in prison. However, I know that is unlikely to happen. Now, if Daman did indeed commit of any those claims, Daman should be in prison. |
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James_xeno
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What a shitshow this all turned out to be. I'll admit that as a matter or principle, Daman was already in deep from merely the accusation and screenshots alone, in accordance with the standards he himself chose for others in the past. But any questions I might have had simply disappeared after the legal and suicide (guilt-trip) threat crap. The doxxing being merely a bonus. And i'm not even going to comment on some of the arguments (not from here really) seeking to throw around "phobia" arguments in an attempt to get this discredited.
I also see i'm not the only one who noticed the similarity with the suicide threat, to the tactics used by sociopaths and abusers. But something else i noticed, is how eerily the retraction/"fabrication" claims sound like the kind of excuses and reasoning abuse victims are said to come up with to self-justify away their abuse. Especially after the fact. The fact that almost nobody important, esp directly from within the industry, who were all so gung ho to "believe/support victims" in almost every other past case, could even be bothered to comment... Was the most telling clue as to how this was going to go. At first I thought by just being officially ignored no matter what.. but we still ended up there, simply by other means it seems. Disgraceful by their own supposed standards no less! I'm pretty much 100% done with the western anime industry at this point, certainly the dubbing parts of it. The amount of respect really couldn't fall much lower, for me at least. As for ANN.. It takes some balls to go with a story like this to begin with. (the wrong type of potential victim, the wrong type of potential sex pest etc) But they haven't really backed down, and the editors have been pretty clear on the behind the scenes bullshit as well. (which is a surprise in genera) +1 respect I can only imagine what the discourse is going to be like online, on social media and within the fandom now when it comes to accusations, even ones backed up with proof. If it wasn't already, stuff like "believe victims" will literally be seen as little more than a partisan call-to-arms for a witch hunt by an even greater number of people. Things are about to get a whole lot more toxic regarding issues like this, one way or another. (the damage has already been done here) As for Daman, one way or another, he likely should start looking for a new profession. Things are going to get really ugly if he's not at least forced to. (the post history is damning enough already in this case I think) |
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Kadmos1
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I agree. Even if he was not in such a relationship with Duncan at all and didn't know Duncan personally, Duncan's "fabricated" claim still is a potential VA industry career killer for Daman. That is, if Duncan was some random person who did pull some false #MeToo-type story, Daman's career in the VA industry was essentially killed from that possible false claim. |
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ATastySub
Past ANN Contributor
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The logic pretzeling you have to do to think this was handled any differently than the past is telling. It’s very clear that your idea of respect has nothing to do with the reality of this situation, and only from a personal vendetta for someone who is unrelated to this. Please get a better barometer of morality than Vic and his adjacent grifters, and then maybe you won’t have to pretend that ANN somehow did something out of character rather than simply operate with the same integrity it has always had. |
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#icyermc
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So - honest question.
Why do a lot of you say “Believe all victims” until they redact their statement and say they claims were fabricated? That seems a little hypocritical, wouldn’t you think? After the victim redacts the statement, you all automatically start assuming things and saying that he was pressured, even when the victim himself says that he wasn’t pressured. If you really believed all victims, you would believe them if they retract their statement and admit it was fabricated. |
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FeelMyBlade
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Believing victims includes being able to tell when a retraction was most likely done out of legal intimidation or emotional blackmail like people threatening to kill themselves. |
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capt_bunny
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No disrespect when saying this considering how you are struggling with this messy situation. However, I do think it's distasteful to put a Ko-fi in a thread on sexual allegations. Maybe a thread of reviews instead. Again, I know you are stressed out over this. But I do find it.... a bit iffy when I see people promote or anything about themselves of when it's not related to sexual allegations or any serious subject. |
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Cardcaptor Takato
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