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Electric Wooloo
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...I don't know if you misread or are purposefully misconstruing my comment, but I didn't even mention believability. I said it was a narrative disappointment. Those two things are not even close to the same. Having vision so good you can predict bullet paths and dodge them is extremely unbelievable for example, but it makes for a fun and interesting premise for a show. And likewise, the show seeming to build up DA's ruin through Majima's plan only for it to be overturned in 30 seconds can be believable (It's not, but that does not matter because again it was not factored in to my comment at all), but that doesn't mean it isn't a disappointing ending to that plot thread. |
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Florete
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I remember that, but that wasn't an introduction, only a tease of their existence.
Well, yeah. I understood the in-universe justification. I mean from a writer's perspective, why bother? They ultimately had no real impact on the story. But it's probably as darkchibi07 said. |
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Gina Szanboti
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My prediction: new heart in the backpack. Dunno why, but it's there.
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kotomikun
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It's just that normally, extremists have a more concrete and substantial goal. Violently changing who runs the government, or killing/terrorizing some group of people they consider demonically evil, or whatever. Trying (unsuccessfully) to manipulate one of your secret society's patronized individuals into using her superpower in a slightly different way just seems... kind of pointless. Even if the process didn't involve one of your executives getting an unneeded heart transplant and then trying to get himself shot. The whole concept of Alan Institute is really bizarre to begin with; they only care about helping a handful of superhumans, and apparently they have immense interest in them using their abilities in a very specific way... but they also don't really care who the supers work for, since the two we know about are working against each other? They don't seem to be trying to create a brave new world of empowered people, otherwise they'd be trying to clone Chisato and Majima and whoever else. So what do they really want? If they have no motivations we don't already know about, I'd say it all wraps back around to just "they're insane cultists." I do hope there ends up being a second season, because whatever happens next episode, there's gonna be a lot of unfinished business. Can't guess whether it'll happen, though. Seems like the show's done pretty well, but original anime are always a tough sell.
Honestly, combining multiple theories into Yoshi faked the heart transplant + it was still in the briefcase + Majima found it and moved it to Chisato's bag is exactly the type of zany conclusion I'd expect. Heck, maybe she figured out all of that as soon as her bag flew in out of nowhere. |
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zensunni
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For everyone who is concerned that the relationship between Takina and Chisato is nothing more than yuri baiting, I'm happy to report that, according to sources who have read the light novel that came out earlier this month, Takina definitely is crushing on Chisato... hard!
I'd forgotten until I read that comment that this anime was billed as a multimedia project, with a manga based on the anime and a light novel of, essentially, side stories, as part of the project. The light novel is titled, I think, "Lycoris Recoil: Ordinary Days". |
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WindyFields
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Yeah, I figured that afterward. Not a twelve-episode season. Well, I've done worse. |
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gumbaloom
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OK so just watched the last episode
By god this show stuck its landing - I won't spoil but boy the writers for this show rock. They know how to push our buttons. Plenty of dnagling threads for a possible season 2 but if this ends up being it I think this is a high point anime of Summer 2022 EDIT - Make sure to watch after the ED. If that doesn't leave a smile on your face I don't know what will - Classic LycoLyco! |
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darkchibi07
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At the very least spoiler[we can all sigh in relief.] I think it's safe to say considering the surprise popularity this show has generated, the creators and producers should be able to get a better idea what worked and what didn't worked. I really hope they think hard when creating any future installments.
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dm
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I loved Kurumi's spoiler[you're the scariest of us all].
Also, great call-back to the beginning of the series in the form of the photo with a surprise in the background. A great ending for a series that doesn't take itself seriously at all. When the home video release comes out, I'll shelve it right next to the Read Or Die OVAs, another series that exhumed "Here is a world filled with all these interesting ideas, but we're really just here to have fun". I wouldn't mind a more serious take on the implications of DA, but .... not at the cost of changing much about the denizens of Lycoris Cafe and their relationships. |
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gumbaloom
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Totally agree - it's the very finely balance mix of fun and sometimes serious ideas that makes this series just so charming. I've already got voluem 1 of the Japanese blu-ray 
Just as a btw - - An official manga adaptation has started in Flapper Magazine with the volume due out in December - There is an official spin off manga also due out as well starting serialization from next month. |
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kotomikun
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So, did anyone have spoiler[Mika was faking his injury the whole time] on their LycoRecoBingo card?
I guess we're meant to conclude that spoiler[the heart was still in the briefcase, since why else would Yoshi and then Mika take it with them? Which also leaves it ambiguous as to whether Mika actually killed him. So that and "when are Chisato and Takina going to come out of the closet" are the main remaining loose ends.] Overall, an appropriately meme-tastic ending, bringing the cliffhanger(s) to a conclusion while also leaving the door open for a season 2. Or maybe just a Hawaiian beach OVA. |
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Yttrbio
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kotomikun
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Yoshi still had no reason to bring it along--while barely able to move due to a bullet wound--after telling Chisato he implanted the heart in himself, unless the heart was actually still in there. So, either spoiler[Mika killed him to end his villainous harassment and to keep his fully-functional leg a secret, or just knocked him out and called the even-secreter-police to collect him. Since he used those magic rubber bullets on assassin-lady, either is possible. Though I'm leaning towards him being dead, since unlike Majima, he was not shown to have inexplicably survived later in the episode.] But there's no way he surgically removed the heart right there, apparently without any tools. |
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dm
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Mika didn't have to spoiler[remove the heart there in the tower. It's not an organ, it's a machine, and could persist in a dead body long enough to get to a proper surgery.]
Pretty amazing they were able to get a food-truck kitted out there in Hawaii (it sounded to me like Chisato was saying "Wai-ha"). I really liked the conversation between Chisato and Majima. |
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Electric Wooloo
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I enjoyed the episode, but couldn't help thinking Chisato had a narrow view of things. "Everyone does good things that they believe in, what's wrong with that?" Well what happens when two people's idea of what "A good thing is" come into conflict? You get the exact situation you're currently in.
But on further thought I kind of realized that was the point. Chisato, by her own admission, isn't focused on the big picture. She's very much a live in the moment type. To paraphrase a famous saying "Put the small things in order, and the big picture will naturally follow" seems to be her way of doing things to the end. And I can get behind that. Chisato keeping a cheery outlook talking about how people should choose for themselves while trying to stop Majima's choice, Mika keeping another secret that Chisato wouldn't be happy to know but doing it for her sake, make me think that those little contradictions are on purpose because real people are complicated and for all its physics defying action this series does a wonderful job of showing real characters. I can also get behind the overall theme of Chisato's "Meaning of life" to just leave behind some good memories and a have a good time. Surprisingly existentialist with its "Only the person themselves can decide what life means to them" outlook.
I disagree. The exchange of "It's right there isn't it? Shinji, you wouldn't lie" "That doesn't make me happy after all this" between Mika and Shinji implies to me that he really did have the heart installed in his chest. Because he's the type of person to go that far for his ideals, and Mika understands that. Also Takina's comment on the beach about "Yeah... usually" had a very sinister tone that I believe also underscores the truth of the matter, whether Takina herself actually knows or not. Not to mention this is a super science mechanical heart, I don't think you'd really need surgical tools to get it out. If you're not trying to keep the person its in alive just cut around it and put it in the briefcase, its not like its going to be as delicate as a real one. Either way it's clearly meant to be ambiguous. whether that's for the viewer's sake or to hedge any future developments... we'll see.
She was saying Waiha, it's slang for Hawaii. A surprising amount of Japanese slang is just swapping the front and back half of a word. Another one in the same vein you may have heard is the super casual "Paisen" as slang for Senpai" Also, just how old is Kurumi? I was hoping to get an answer considering "Walnut has been around since the start of the internet," Misaki Kuno saying on twitter she was "Told to play Kurumi like an adult, a role she doesn't usually play," and Kurumi constantly listening to the stereotypically old school Enka music. Guess that mystery will have to wait for another season 
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