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Nordhmmer
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MiA is listed to have 12 episodes is it not? (Or did you mean Irumyuui & her children's fate? answer: episode 8 will kinda/sorta) @Blood @NeverConvex If the "torture porn" with kids is indeed disturbing your enjoyment of MiA- Well it continues with this arc (and on into the next.). |
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Penrhos
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Latest episode has put me off "Soup" at least they didn't adapt everything from this bit of the Manga.....
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I'm just going by HiDive. They have it listed at 8 episodes. |
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NeverConvex
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Yeah, I expect as much. It's not really the suffering in itself that bugs me; it's that it feels like suffering without a purpose. What makes me agree with Blood- that 'torture porn' is an apt description is that it feels like MiA is more interesting portraying kids in compromised situations than in fleshing out its characters or giving their adventures some some sort of thematic meat. Because of that, the suffering (.. etc) feels to me more like an end in itself than an instrument in service of higher narrative goals. I'd just like to see MiA show some interest in the development of its cast, and to use the other stuff in service of that. |
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@ NeverConvex - totally agree. And look, I'm a huge fan of MiA. Before this latest season, it was easily in my top 5 tv anime series of all time... and I've watched 1030 shows to completion. But it really is starting to feel exploitive now and as NC says I feel like this is the driving rationale for the show: to be a travelogue through an endless journey of cruelty, suffering and misery of young, cute children.
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Gem-Bug
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To be fair, as far as I can recall, this current flashback is spoiler[the worst of the torture porn stuff thus far in the manga.]. Other manga folks can correct me if I'm mistaken.
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Chiibi
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Actually, yeah. The arcs of the manga after this spoiler[are not nearly as miserable.] At this point, I feel like I'm part of Riko's party and I need to go with them every step of the way...no matter how bad things get. And that is what I will do! |
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But as I said before it's not so much what happened itself as it is the cumulative impact of all these things. For example, if this was the first bad thing that happened, before Mitty and before Prushka, I would have been horrified, of course, but I wouldn't have felt like this sort of thing was the primary focus of the show. It's only when you start adding it all up that you go, oh geez is this sort of thing the actual raison d'etre of the whole enterprise? |
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Gem-Bug
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Oh, absolutely. I wasn't trying to lessen the impact of any of those events, or imply that they aren't definitely a pattern. Just that the manga spoiler[eases up on the gas pedal considerably after this]. Doesn't change the fact that we've all suffered through what is seemingly more and more a pattern/the focus. |
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Nordhmmer
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Season 2 is adapting the 'Ilblu Arc' The next "arc", 'Capital of the Unreturned', consists of two chapters and serves as an epilogue to the 'Ilblu Arc' and a segue into the just begun 'Curse Fleet Arc'. (with the 'Curse Fleet Arc' being currently two chapters,and counting, in) And why did I type that the torture-porn will continue ,even with the latest arc still in it's infancy? Simple. From the get go,body-horror/torture-porn is prevalent throughout MiA,just as is the sexual imagery.-Also going by the outfits the newest female characters sport,we're getting more sex & horror. (Now mind I do not see the "Soylent Green" deal as torture-porn,but taking Blood's & NeverConvex's perspectives into account,ya the torture-porn does get a bit more egregious as the Village arc reaches it's finale. |
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Yes, I didn't see cannibalism as torture porn, either. In fact, I don't even use the term torture porn... misery porn seems a more apt phrase. The show seems heavily invested in putting cute child characters in absolutely miserable situations... like giving Irumyuui a cute pet that gets killed right in front of her. Not to mention granting a wish that cruelly gives her children who don't survive which, of course, ties into her sad back story. Like really, man... it's like Akihito Tsukushi sat down and thought, "okay, how can I dial up the misery to absolutely insane levels?"
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Chiibi
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I'll politely point out that it's not only children who suffer....but adults as well.
Adults, cute animals, and cute kids....nobody is spared from the horror that dwells in the Abyss. Survival of the fittest. Nature just has no compassion down there. But if it's become too much for others to keep watching...I don't blame you. That is why I stopped watching Devilman Crybaby. Cause I did like the first episodes but then I researched what happens later and....NOPE....don't think I wanna put myself through that.  same goes for Berserk.
Tsukushi has another manga (a very short one), Star Strings Yori about a girl traveling back and forth from stars. It's MUCH more light-hearted....and nothing really that lewd or bad happens. But it did give me a lonely feeling when I read it. Still, I was glad that he is capable of drawing something cute and nice with no misery attached.  lol I hope to see more stories like that from him in the future after MiA ends. Twisted themes aside, the man is incredibly talented.
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NeverConvex
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Oh, misery porn's a better phrase. I think I just carelessly changed it to the more common 'torture porn' when I piped up in agreement earlier.
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blahmoomoo
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For some reason, from the start they are only listing the current episodes plus one future episode for MiA. I'm not sure why, considering every other HIDIVE simulcast that I've seen lists all future episodes. Other sources list that there will be 12 episodes. |
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@ Chiiibi - it's true that everybody suffers, but there is special emphasis put on the cute kids. But thank you for mentioning Star Strings Yori - I may check that out.
@ blahmoomoo - as much as my poor heart is getting stomped flat by this season, I do hope it is 12 episodes versus just 8. I thought 8 sounded kind of short for a season. 12 makes much more sense. But yeah, it is odd that HD lists all the episodes for all its other simulcasts but not this one. I wonder if that means the current listing for Phantom of the Idol only being 10 episodes is off, too. |
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