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PipimiOden
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Fox news being fox news. I don't know why the fudge my grandma watches that channel.
It's not even made by someone in Japan! It's on Twitter, and I think the fox news anchors and such are on that site so you can probably guess what happened. Man, SeeU has the worst possible luck these days... |
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FeelMyBlade
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It is kind of ironic people are using the same rhetoric as people who often defend the existence or big boobs in anime/manga/games. When an overly exaggerated breasted character shows up and people trot out the "has the artist even SEEN a woman before?" or "Exhibid A on why men should not be allowed to draw women" kind of jabs and defenders counter with "big breasted women exist in real life you know". Shoe is on the other foot now, I guess.
For the issue itself: I guess Canadian schools have different standards than American schools do. Hard to think the teacher wasn't placed on leave immediately, especially with some of the uncomfortable comments from the students I've read. I wonder if the situation would be treated differently if it was a guy teacher showing off a huge bulge erection in his gym shorts to his students though |
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light turner
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Canada's Bill C-16 makes it very hard to fire or punish a transgender person in the workplace. If she considers her breasts an expression of her gender identity then reprimanding her over them can open the district up to a discrimination lawsuit and other avenues of retaliation. And as ATastySub alluded to, people will now feel the need to defend the teacher on principle since Fox News brought attention to it and they do not want to give Fox News a "win" by punishing the teacher and proving Tucker Carlson right so it makes dealing with the situation more difficult. It's a very messy situation to be in right now. |
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Emerje
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If large breasts are what makes her happy, then fine, let her. But in what professional work setting is there no dress code requiring a bra? Is that just a Canadian thing? Being trans isn't perverted, but intentionally having large, erect nipples sticking through a tight shirt around kids does feel rather perverse doesn't it? Am I crazy? How can that be defended for any woman? There should be no issue with her being trans and choosing the body she's comfortable with, but at least dress appropriately.
For the record I hate Fox News and can't stand Tucker Carlson, but I won't let that cloud my reasonable judgement about her, either. Emerje |
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Fedora-san
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I would like to think any rational person would find this inappropriate. And any somewhat intelligent person would know it's also extremely dangerous to have long hair, loose fitting clothing, and other dangly bits in shop case where accidents can happen with machinery. It's one of the first things they tell students. Girls with long hair need to tie it back, guys in hoodies and sweatshirts with long draw strings need to remove them. It's safety 101, and the fact basic safety procedures are not being followed in all this is the truly troubling thing in all this. People can discuss the subjective nature of what's appropriate for work or school, but safety hazards are non-negotiable. |
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DankyKang
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You're not crazy, it's just politics have rotted people's brains to the point they can't be objective or discuss things rationally anymore. The fact most of this thread is people complaining about Tucker Carlson rather than the actual news subject is pretty clear about that. Tucker Carlson could invent the cure for cancer and people would refuse to accept it on principle and shame anyone who did. And that's not hyperbole. We saw that happened after the KyoAni arson attack when a famous cosmetic surgeon in Japan offered to help the victims for free but once Twitter found out he was right-wing they shamed the victims for accepting his offer and made the whole situation about politics. People value politics more than human life. What the actual students, parents, or other teachers think in this situation no longer matter. |
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oilers2007
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I go to Oakville and no this whole situation is not normal. Students are not comfortable with this and parents are outraged. A lot of kids are skipping her class and refusing to go until she's reprimanded. There's protests about it here and the school board is just trying to ignore the whole thing due to the bad PR. some people think it's a stunt to get fired and cash in a wrongful termination paycheck but whatever the reason it's not being treated as normal at all |
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AiddonValentine
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Not surprising at all. Another thing Carlson said that I'll not repeat made me wonder what other skeletons he has in his closet. At the end of the day though, this is just another white bread putz using a platform to spread hatred because he hates that the world is leaving people like him behind. |
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IchiroFox
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If this person was a teacher in my kid's school, either they would have to go or I'd be transferring my kids to another school.
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chudmaru
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I'm not sure what kind of question this is supposed to be. When you see injustice happening in the world you can and should speak up on it even if you live in another part of the world and are unaffected by it. The students who posted the original pictures and videos to social media did so to garner attention and help onto an unsafe learning environment that their school was attempting to sweep under the rug and keep under wraps. It's a good thing as many voices and outlets cover this all across the world in order to raise awareness and stand in solidarity with the students. Sunlight is always the best disinfectant, as they say. |
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Juno016
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Tucker Carlson is the subject being discussed here: His politics and wording in the segment, his subjecting a teacher to national ridicule using an anime porn analogy, and his clear intent to use this story to scare his audience into believing the false narrative popular on his side of politics (the trans/gay teacher "groomer" narrative). Forgive the common over-exaggerated analogy, but if Hitler discovered the cure to cancer, his legacy would still be that of a fascist dictator with millions of people worth of blood on his hands. Tucker ain't a Hitler, but he is still doing active harm with this segment and how he's framing it, regardless of whether people (including other trans people) agree or disagree with the general sentiment about the trans woman in this particular story. You could easily cover the story without making it a national crisis or fearmongering about all trans people. |
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Mad_Scientist
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For the record: "Gays against Groomers" is an anti-transgender hate group attempting to smear all trans people as pedophiles and pushing a narrative that encourages violence towards hospitals, teachers, and just trans people in general. They, along with "Libs of Tiktok" and some other groups, are literally getting children's hospitals shut down with bomb threats, among other things. Do not push the propaganda or hate of either group here. Do not try and get clever and launder their propaganda either. Hate speech is not allowed on this forum
Sunlight? Tucker, and apparently the other reports that he sourced, didn't even get the right staff member. A random different staff member got named and shamed. This is not about sunlight, or preventing a bad situation. Juno016 said it well, this is about using this teacher as an example to push a false narrative that smears all trans people as child abusing sex predators. Tucker doesn't give a damn about the safety of that particular teacher in shop class or whether she bothers students, it's all about the narrative. And he's had success, already images of that teacher have become a go-to on social media for anti trans bigots of all sorts, reactionaries to outright Nazis. We've had multiple examples in this thread that have had to be removed of people pushing the same smears about trans people. If this was just about one teacher, one extreme situation, that wouldn't be happening. So many people conveniently missing the point in this thread. |
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Allison Addams
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Do you have any idea who Tucker Carlson is and what he does? His stupid tangent isn't about this person, it's about him once again trying to vilify and spread hatred of the trans community. He's only using her as his example to get his stupid, wrong, hateful point across. And as absurd as his bullshit can sound, it's actually pretty frightening at just how many people actually watch and listen to what this bigoted white supremacist has to say. It isn't harmless ranting. This is the exact type of dramatic bullshit that fuels the hatred and bigotry people have for a vulnerable communities that also invokes real-world violence and the harmful legislation that attacks their human rights. You trying to do the mental gymnastics to take one thing in a vacuum is not being rational because you're just ignoring what this shithead is really doing. Context is everything. |
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zekro94
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Can someone tell me why my post was deleted? I expressed my opinion like everyone else regarding this news
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Taskforce
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That is rich. After 4 pages of calling Tucker Carlson everything but a nice person and not deleting it that absolutely can't be true. What you meant to say is "We only allow hate speech as long as we agree with it." At least be honest. |
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