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Troyen
Joined: 22 May 2024
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Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 4:54 am
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jr240483 wrote: | its why i think both you and the reviewer is incorrect about that take!
while yes, in season 2 during the meeting he had with gazel and eren's dad, he started to suspect yuuki after they start telling him on what kind of a persone she is, however thanks to the BS with the western merchants and the seven days, their actions more or less removed him as someone who cannot be trusted and back as another otherworlder who likes the same manga as him
he more or less says that during their aftermath meeting with the luminous church in EP 11! |
Iirc, right after that declaration, Raphael interjected with some tidbit that he can't easily rule Yuuki off as innocent and Rimuru seemed to agree.
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Greed1914
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Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 10:02 am
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I'm inclined to think the last part with Masayuki wasn't entirely on Rimuru. Masayuki ended a prior episode thinking things should be easy because he wasn't going there looking to do anything special, but everything in that episode showed that his skill just causes stuff to happen around him without wanting it. So much so that he seems worried that he has no way to know what is presence will cause.
I will give the story some credit for finding a way to hand Rimuru some Ls without contradicting its established pattern that he ends up winning direct conflicts. He wants to live peacefully and cooperate, and that means having to put himself in others' shoes and not relying on being OP to get his way. He is at least fallible.
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Zefram
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Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:11 pm
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MFrontier wrote: | Nice to see some old faces and that Youm and Mjurran got married. It's like one of the only other major romances in this show.
But this episode did feel like we got back into the slow and boring meetings of the first cour. Even though this season really has been 80% meetings in general.
It's so weird seeing Rimuru and Yuuki acting so buddy buddy like old pals when you know the truth. I mean, it's probably just the both of them feeling out the other and not wanting to play their hand but you've even got Kagali getting an "in" into Clayman's ruins with Rimuru acting none the wiser about who she really is.
Oh hey, the kids and Tiss-sensei! And now they finally get to experience Tempest.
Way to make yourselves come off even more unlikeable, Masayuki's party. They were nearly turned into literal food by Shion. Though it should be interesting to see how Masayuki fares in the tournament, especially if he ends up going up against someone major from Tempest. |
Masayuki power is a combination of luck and getting undeserved accolades. Not sure if it's clear in anime, but the way he would defeat a more powerful opponent is to trip on precise moment of strike and his opponents power ricochet back on origin, destroying his opponent. Or have that opponent trip and fall on on sharp object, accidently getting KO'd. So it wouldn't matter if Masayuki opponent is more powerful, unless that power's luck stats cancel Masayuki 's hero power which is Ultimate Skill.
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MFrontier
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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 7:54 pm
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It was nice to see everybody dressed and dolled up, especially Frey and Hinata.
I wish Masayuki could have enjoyed sushi with the rest of the Japanese characters. He could use some new friends.
Oh hey, the Scarlet Bond characters!
It's funny how people from the two villain groups have both infiltrated the festival and Tempest is more or less none the wiser.
Rimuru relies so much on his subordinates' immense talent and the credit they give him for said talent. Shuna making a full-course meal into a political statement with Rimuru's intentions...and he had no idea about it! And she did it without even needing reality-bending power, so take that Shion!
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GhostD
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 8:05 am
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Quote: | Why were the kids from Earth so shocked? Have they never seen Rimuru as a slime before? ...They knew he was a king, right? |
They didn't know he was both a slime and a king until they got to Tempest. Before that they only thought he was a cool and super strong teacher with a resemblance to Shizu
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jr240483
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 9:57 pm
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GhostD wrote: |
Quote: | Why were the kids from Earth so shocked? Have they never seen Rimuru as a slime before? ...They knew he was a king, right? |
They didn't know he was both a slime and a king until they got to Tempest. Before that they only thought he was a cool and super strong teacher with a resemblance to Shizu |
actually they knew he was a slime back in season 1!
thet only thing they did not know was that he was the leader of his own monster nation!
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Hyper Tails
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 5:40 pm
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To address some of your concerns, the anime has been really bad with pacing:
They cut out a whole chapter and stuffed it into the credits of an episode back after Luminus dealt with the Seven Days, for instance. That party happening during the credits had quite a bit of information that was skipped over and seems unlikely to come up anytime soon.
Regarding the Herbs, the anime cut out Raphael informing Rimuru that the amount of magicules needed is so great that few countries could ever hope to mass produce them (you'd need someone Veldora's level), and it wouldn't be an easy task, so Gabil and Vesta just assumed they were in the clear to present it.
As for Gazel, he did, in fact, chew Gabil and Vesta (and Rimuru) out for the presentation after it was over. The anime might move this latter part to later.
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MFrontier
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:14 pm
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Hinata is surprisingly good with kids, assuming they don't call her an "old hag."
I see Luminus just likes wearing a maid outfit.
The Tempest Orchestra! Featuring a guy named Takt (but no Destiny), a bunch of races coming together to do beautiful music, and a Shion/Shuna duet with amazing dresses and violin/piano skills!
Tempest is casually OP even when it comes to scientific research.
Okay, now Rimuru's followers can use Holy Magic for believing in him? Can we make everybody even more OP?
I'm assuming the two threats Luminus was referring to are Yuki and the Rosso girl? Not sure how they're aware of the latter.
Even Shion has a smart thought now and then...even if she and Diablo quickly jump to violence.
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GhostD
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:19 pm
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MFrontier wrote: | Okay, now Rimuru's followers can use Holy Magic for believing in him? Can we make everybody even more OP? |
Yes. Yes we certainly can....
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jr240483
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:50 am
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GhostD wrote: |
MFrontier wrote: | Okay, now Rimuru's followers can use Holy Magic for believing in him? Can we make everybody even more OP? |
Yes. Yes we certainly can.... |
if you think that would make tempest OP, wait until he summons the rest of the primordial demons as his subordinates later on in the light novels!
Quote: | i hope this comes back to bite him in the ass. It'd be nice to have Rimuru lose for once—even in a way as minor as this. |
THAT WOULD BE A BAD IDEA MR REVIEWER!
the last time he lost in any manner, he in kind slaughtered over 20,000 people, used the souls of said people to become an awakened demon lord like milim, and used their dead bodies to summon one of the legendary seven primordial demons to be his butler!
so yea....... NO ONE wants to know what would happen if he loses a second time. especially if diablo gets into his ear and try to coax the little slime to summon the other primordial demons in retribution!
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Zefram
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:43 am
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jr240483 wrote: |
GhostD wrote: |
MFrontier wrote: | Okay, now Rimuru's followers can use Holy Magic for believing in him? Can we make everybody even more OP? |
Yes. Yes we certainly can.... |
if you think that would make tempest OP, wait until he summons the rest of the primordial demons as his subordinates later on in the light novels!
Quote: | i hope this comes back to bite him in the ass. It'd be nice to have Rimuru lose for once—even in a way as minor as this. |
THAT WOULD BE A BAD IDEA MR REVIEWER!
the last time he lost in any manner, he in kind slaughtered over 20,000 people, used the souls of said people to become an awakened demon lord like milim, and used their dead bodies to summon one of the legendary seven primordial demons to be his butler!
so yea....... NO ONE wants to know what would happen if he loses a second time. especially if diablo gets into his ear and try to coax the little slime to summon the other primordial demons in retribution! |
You are confusing Rimuru reaction for when he simply lost and when his people (including Shion) were slaughtered. Rimuru normal reaction to losing is his reaction to first Hinata fight, which he lost. This one, is even less high stakes.His choice is to find proper coinage or be manipulated by traders to overpay in gold. Traders that DID provide their services honestly, they didn't cheat or provide inferior goods or services. Not enough for him to go all demon king on them
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Eilavel
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:09 am
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Yeah...Rimirus slaughter was definitely wrong, but he over-retaliated out of feelings of loss and protectiveness. Its at least not the same as doing it out of mere pride at any loss, which he's clearly much less bothered about.
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jr240483
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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 5:59 am
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Eilavel wrote: | Yeah...Rimirus slaughter was definitely wrong, but he over-retaliated out of feelings of loss and protectiveness. Its at least not the same as doing it out of mere pride at any loss, which he's clearly much less bothered about. |
but remember that this is an isekai fantasy world and in this world, even petty things like this is how wars started.
after all, it was fiancial greed that triggered the falmuth war in the first place.
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Eilavel
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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 9:47 am
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Well, when you create a world with rules who are personally as powerful as their entire armed forces and have absolute power, thats not an unrealistic outcome. Even most fun isekai are accidentally a step away from dystopia.
But the point is Rimiru personally wouldn't start a war over that kind of pettiness. Others would for sure.
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jr240483
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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 2:49 pm
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Eilavel wrote: | Well, when you create a world with rules who are personally as powerful as their entire armed forces and have absolute power, that's not an unrealistic outcome. Even most fun isekai are accidentally a step away from dystopia.
But the point is Rimiru personally wouldn't start a war over that kind of pettiness. Others would for sure. |
he may not and it is as you said. other nations who see him as an economical threat to their own financial interests will use that as reasonings to start a war, but losing some one or something can cause rimiru to escalate it towards the point of no return ala falmuth, which is is what occurred when the eastern empire invaded in the later volumes of the light novels
even more so after veldora was taken
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