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Glordit
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:23 am
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The tailer shared some similarities with the first Urusei Yatsura 2022 PV where they had the characters call out "Darling" and "Lum" though in this trailer it's Ranma's name.
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Banjo
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:26 am
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Shimazu Saeko as Kodachi will make me consider watching/buying this..
I imagine Narita Ken will play Tatewaki.
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thekingsdinner
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:31 am
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Wonder if it'll come to netflix worldwide at a later date. I really want to know which actors they'd get for an eventual dub.
I've always watched Ranma dubbed so that's the first thing that came to mind.
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TheOnePieceIsReal
Joined: 06 Jul 2024
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:38 am
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TheSleepyMonkey wrote: |
Otcho wrote: | Mhmmmm. MAPPA doing this raises some serious concerns, Not for the beginning parts, but for the entire production. This has to be an adaptation with well over 50 episodes and I'm not sure I trust MAPPA with something like this. I was hoping for David Pro. |
MAPPA is a considerably bigger studio than DP is. |
He's talking about the infamous production issues that happened during the development of Jujutsu Kaisen season 2. I doubt bringing up the size of the studios would mean anything. Especially since David Pro is well known for adapting the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure series. From Phantom Blood to Stone Ocean. And a far bigger franchise then Ranma 1/2.
With that said I don't agree with Otcho's skepticism as Jujutsu Kaisen 2 was just one known time where the production issues were made aware and we can't really say for sure what happened during the production that made the problems appear. Not saying they're wrong, but I personally don't agree. Let's just say that I'm the optimistic sort of person and call it that.
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Anne F
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:45 am
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This is amazing news! I wasn't expecting this so soon. I'm so happy a lot of the original cast are returning. Especially Megumi Hayashibara and Kappei Yamaguchi. I watched both the dub and sub so I'm interested in seeing if anyone from the original dub will return.
I'll have to get the manga out of storage and re-read it. October can't come fast enough!
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Amritzer
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:15 am
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Guys, you should check social media, X, YouTube, Reddit...
No wonder people like remakes, and "Original still holds up, remake is unnecessary." folks are tiny, tiny, insignificant minority.
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Otcho
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:17 am
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TheOnePieceIsReal wrote: | He's talking about the infamous production issues that happened during the development of Jujutsu Kaisen season 2. I doubt bringing up the size of the studios would mean anything. Especially since David Pro is well known for adapting the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure series. From Phantom Blood to Stone Ocean. And a far bigger franchise then Ranma 1/2.
With that said I don't agree with Otcho's skepticism as Jujutsu Kaisen 2 was just one known time where the production issues were made aware and we can't really say for sure what happened during the production that made the problems appear. Not saying they're wrong, but I personally don't agree. Let's just say that I'm the optimistic sort of person and call it that. |
I love Ranma and I hope MAPPA nails this adaptation without problems, but it's not quite true, that MAPPA worries me because of Jujutsu Kaisen season 2. That one had well reported issues, but it was such a big property. that they could throw enough ressources at it to mask those pretty well in the end.
When I'm talking about red Flags concerning MAPPA, I'm more looking at the complete production meltdowns on stuff like Hell's Paradise and last season's Bucchigiri! Those issues they really could not manage to hide.
Also, if you look at MAPPA's catalogue, they really have not done a lot of longer series. It's often single cour shows (Vinland Saga and Jujutsu Kaisen as exceptions).
And when I think about a long running series and MAPPA, I also think about their handling of AOT after Wit with a weird and drawn out production and release schedule.
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residentgrigo
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:22 am
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David Pro animated Urusei Yatsura but they also had trouble taking care of 39 ep shows more than once. A 50 ep to who knows how many anime that has to run for a fixed amount of time with likely only seasonal breaks is something I wouldn´t wish on them. There is also a good chance that the Ranma show was greenlit not too long after Urusei Yatsura to air shortly after it so a new partner had to be found anyway. The way it all lines up can´t be a coincidence.
I bet that a Mao anime is next unless Rin-ne returns as it is the only long-form anime of hers that didn´t reach the canon (non-)ending after Ranma. Rin-ne only needs one cour to get there if one disregards the skipped content. Very easy money. I don´t get this industry sometimes... Urusei Yatsura already got to Vol 34 through a movie so it´s, again incomplete, readaptation was just nostalgia and a marketing ploy for a new audience.
Toei and TMS are the only studios that can release a 50 or 100 ep project that runs without a break. The only way to get a full Rumiko Takahashi adaptation is through them but do fans even want that? RIP MAPPA animantors. The studio simply can´t live without having an anime on the air at all times while doing movies on top of that.
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Otcho
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:39 am
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I wouldn't want them to try to make a long running adaptation, that runs without breaks. They can and should do it in multiple seasons with breaks in between.
Also, I think you undervalue David Pro in terms of beeing able to make long series. I think the Jojo adaptation is an amazing achievement (weird production and scheduling with Part 6 notwithstanding), but they are also doing Fire Force with already around 50 episodes and a 2 part season 3 on its way and the new Captain Tsubasa adaptation with already over 90 episodes. It's not just Jojo.
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TheOnePieceIsReal
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:41 am
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Well all I can say to you Otcho is that I can't agree with what you've said. Since I've never seen Attack on Titan, Hell's Paradise, and the likes. So I can't really say much about them other then just difference of opinions.
With that said production drops are things that happen all the time in anime development. The later episodes are usually agreed to have the weakest animation and production compared to the early episodes. At least that's what I've heard from a veteran Japanese animator.
But again I can't really agree with your reasoning so I'll call it what it is: A disagreement and leave it at that. No point in dilly-dallying here. You have your own beliefs and I have my own.
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Rowri8
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:50 am
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Amritzer wrote: | Guys, you should check social media, X, YouTube, Reddit...
No wonder people like remakes, and "Original still holds up,remake is unnecessary." folks are tiny, tiny, insignificant minority. |
In Japan we don't mind remakes for shows that didn't fully adapt the manga or changed along the way or wasn't faithful, and that's basically all the remakes lately. We don't do remakes for something that had a faithful FULL adaptation. The original Ranma anime will always be loved here, along with the people who made it, heck even my 8 to 10-year-old nieces and nephews love it along with the manga. Can't wait for the remake and see the ending animated!
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Smongo
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:51 am
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Didn’t expect for it to come out this year but I’m very excited. Hopefully the animators are treated better.
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residentgrigo
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:57 am
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I was watching all of JoJo live from the start. Including Part 4... Their latest production breakdown is Captain Tsubasa. JJK S2 is also a better-looking show than anything David Pro ever delivered. Even the TV broadcast looked better than 99% of all TV anime ever. Hellish working conditions or not. A perfect example of everything going right despite that not being the case. To say that David Pro is better run than MAPPA is comical and they simply don´t have the employees to make one 4 cour, or whatever, shows one after another. MAPPA has 4 times the employees and sub-studios on top.
Getting JoJo Part 7 this decade would also be quite nice and animating it will be actual hell. Complex designs, horses Everywhere All at Once, an exotic period setting (by Japanese standards) and 24 volumes of no filler. If David Pro keeps the license then the A people will always be on it and all other projects will suffer.
Back to Rumiko and the bigger point. Scheduling. The production company says by which date what has to air and what the budget is. MAPPA for example agreed to work under conditions WIT wasn´t willing to so AoT S4 went to them. It´s rarely up to a studio what they can do unless there is a heavily established relationship with a publisher/author. Capitalism waits for no one. MAPPA either underbid the rest or was gunning for it.
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psh_fun
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 10:11 am
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Rowri8 wrote: | In Japan we don't mind remakes for shows that didn't fully adapt the manga or changed along the way or wasn't faithful, and that's basically all the remakes lately. We don't do remakes for something that had a faithful FULL adaptation. The original Ranma anime will always be loved here, along with the people who made it, heck even my 8 to 10-year-old nieces and nephews love it along with the manga. Can't wait for the remake and see the ending animated! |
I agree I don't mind remakes when it's for a series that got an imcomplete or bad adaption. I liked Ranma's original anime very much but it'd be interesting to see something more inline with the manga. I'm glad they most of the original VAs though
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Otcho
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 10:23 am
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residentgrigo wrote: | I was watching all of JoJo live from the start. Including Part 4... Their latest production breakdown is Captain Tsubasa. JJK S2 is also a better-looking show than anything David Pro ever delivered. Even the TV broadcast looked better than 99% of all TV anime ever. Hellish working conditions or not. A perfect example of everything going right despite that not being the case. To say that David Pro is better run than MAPPA is comical and they simply don´t have the employees to make one 4 cour, or whatever, shows one after another. MAPPA has 4 times the employees and sub-studios on top.
Getting JoJo Part 7 this decade would also be quite nice and animating it will be actual hell. Complex designs, horses Everywhere All at Once, an exotic period setting (by Japanese standards) and 24 volumes of no filler. If David Pro keeps the license then the A people will always be on it and all other projects will suffer.
Back to Rumiko and the bigger point. Scheduling. The production company says by which date what has to air and what the budget is. MAPPA for example agreed to work under conditions WIT wasn´t willing to so AoT S4 went to them. It´s rarely up to a studio what they can do unless there is a heavily established relationship with a publisher/author. Capitalism waits for no one. MAPPA either underbid the rest or was gunning for it. |
My point was not, that David Pro was perfect or anything like that and Captain Tsubasa having issues doesn't suprise me in the slightest (even though Fire Force has been very consistent).
You rightfully mentioned MAPPA's approach of working on tight and hellish schedules and conditions set by the production commitees. I just worry a bit, how that approach could cause issues with an anime with an episode count like Ranma, especially if the plan is indeed to make a complete adaptation.
That doesn't mean there will be problems, just that I'm a little wary about it. That's all. I really hope it turns out great.
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