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NEWS: Hideaki Anno Releases Statement About New Evangelion Movies

RogueJedi86 wrote:

Was that a joke? He's gotta go with Shiro Sagisu, same as he did for Evangelion. His music was great, nearly classic.

I'd like to see Shiro Sagisu come back and do what he did with the marvel that is the EoE musical score, but it's not completely needed for my tastes. I'd like to see Keishi Urata work on it since I loved what he did in Akira, Jin-Roh: The Brigade, Noiseman Sound Insect, Texhnolyze, and Wolf's Rain. Or even better yet, Hajime Mizoguchi, who also worked on Jin-Roh: The Brigade, Texhnolyze, and both the Escaflowne series and movie. Just from what little I've heard he seems to be one of the most versatile ones for crafting music in anime.

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They're only "homages" when they emulate someone else's work, not when they copy the same scene.

They're little nods to previous works, fer Chrissakes. Rip-offs have little to no direction from a prior work. You're twisting around the definition because you just can't stand anything that Anno has made, not to mention Gainax, outside of Gunbuster, which is a freakin' parody of stereotypes itself.

What I'm saying is that just about every creator of fiction is inspired by something and their works share something of a simiarlity to others. Are we going to say that Orson Welles is a hack because he made Citizen Kane to take a stab at William Randolph Hearst, not to mention he was tackling a topic that was about a decade or so past its prime? How about finding fault we recent ventures such as Spirited Away and Pan's Labrynith for taking the basic concept that was created in Alice in Wonderland? And these (melo)dramas that we see in just about every single medium of fiction? Shakespeare capitalized on those centuries ago, and they've been around long before that. And it's not like we've never seen Faust reincarnated before..

CCSYueh wrote:

But I saw Bebop from the middle & liked it. I saw Outlaw Star from the middle & liked it. Specifically on Lord of the Rings, I red the volume where Gandalf (Two Towers?)comes back before reading his death(Fellowship?) Loved it anyway.

Those examples do not encompass every single piece of fiction. Don't apply your method to all stories, because it isn't going to work that way.

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Yet all the Eva fans tell me I'm wrong. I need to watch EVERY EPISODE, get all annoyed at all of Anno's BIG STATEMENTS & then I can say it sucks.

Do my posts just get skipped over with you or something?

Geez, rage, rage, rage, rage, rage, Anno sucks, NGE sucks, all NGE fans suck, yadda, yadda... I don't know if the hardcore "NGE is #1" fanatics or the loud bashers of the franchise are worse.

At the very least, a significant amount of flashbacks.

But regardless, the point is that he's already ripped off fans with the minimal amount of footage contained in his re-releases of the original series.

Evangelion was supposed to have the occasional spin-off, but
not a sequel like FF7.

If the gun was sold to a person who had a sketchy criminal or mental background, then it's definitely the company's fault.

Your response to my comment is just as subjective.

I don't see why it wasn't fitting, considering that it was still the Great Depression when Kane was released.

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Wells spent most of his career trying to live up to Citizen Kane which some fans felt he never bested. While he made other worthy titles, there was still that segment (including certain movie critics) that put Kane on such a pedestal, nothing could touch it.

Homage vs plagerism can be a difficult call. Parody is obvious because the humor usually sets up so one expects the punchline. Homage usually has a certain amount of respect while rip-off will incorporate it into one's works-pass it off as one's own. It's well known Oda respects & knows Toriyama. If a Kamehameha showed up in One Piece, I don't think it'd be plagerism-more likely a nod to Toriyama

So you say the same mode of measurement that I've used on everything else for over 40 yrs to judge whether I like it or not does not apply. I cannot judge Eva until I see all of it

Now, if you were to say, watch the first few episodes of Evangelion and not like it, great, that's your opinion, proud of ya for it. But to base your judgment of an entire body of work on what is basically a handout only to those already familiar with it is foolish.

If you followed my posts, you'd know I started out protesting the arrogance of Anno's statement. (If Eva is THE only anime title of ANY worth in the last 12 yrs, all others have been a waste of time & precious resources)

It was Eva fans who insisted my "sampling" the title by watching Death & Rebirth is no way to decide whether I like the title. And even you seem to say my taste & sampling methods which have lead to a personal anime collection of about 1900 dvds including titles like 12 Kingdoms, Sailor Moon, & Paranoia Agent is wrong. I cannot apply the same criteria for judging Cowboy Bebop ot Lord of the Rings to Eva. Because I've stated pretty much every post I don't like pompous, bloated, pretentious "LOOK AT MY BIG STATEMENT" so Eva is obviously a title I'm not going to get past the window dressing on.

Forget titles like Boogiepop Phantom which I enjoy which deliberately unfold the story out of order.

Flashbacks? This is a recreation.

Yeah, it's not like any company has ever attempted any practice like that before.

And Eva doesn't have a sequel. Again, it is a recreation. It is a re-envisioning of the original story.

Unlike the trilogy remake of the original Mobile Suit Gundam series, THERE IS NO RECYCLED FOOTAGE. How Gundam gets a pass while Eva is subjected to "HATE, RAGE, SLANDER!" is beyond me.

The company didn't sell the gun directly to the person. They supply it, and then it's out of their hands.

But those stories taking a peek at the life of the "rich and famous" weren't "the thing" to write about during the Great Depression when it comes to U.S. literature and films.

You honestly believe that Anno won't use footage from the original series to sell the new films?

He's done it without actually offering anything new, with the exception of a shinier package.

It's a re-telling of stories of key characters, which probably means it ties back into the original show.

Tomino wasn't making money off of Gundam at the time he made the movies. He was hoping to cut his losses when he released summarized versions of the show..

Yes, and that depleted uranium killing Iraqis is out of arms manufacturers hands, too, right?

You honestly believe that Anno won't use footage from the original series to sell the new films?

It's a re-telling of stories of key characters, which probably means it ties back into the original show.

Yes, and that depleted uranium killing Iraqis is out of arms manufacturers hands, too, right?

But that wasn't really the point of Kane. He wasn't truly rich(on the inside) or even well-known.

This is any different to Tomino incorperating TV footage in Zeta Gundam movies how?

Tomino does have a big ego, but expressed differently, however you don't always notice these things if you don't get so caught up in faux-Anime director drama and enjoy the show on it's own merit (or subsequently don't enjoy them on it's merits, which you seem to do half the time, but hating it to spite or in spite of Anno is kind of stupid).

I'm assuming you're reffering to either Death or the Renewal/Platinum release. Death is meant to be a recap, and other series have done this before WITHOUT offering anything new.

Renewal/Platinum is a god damn REMASTER and everyone does that.

If what you have a problem with is people making money by releasing a very popular series, then I suggest you just deal with it. Filmmakers, and people who get money, sometimes have big egos. This is nothing new.

A gun is made by a manufacturer, and then sold to a store which by all means, according to the law, must be then sold to a responsible, registered person (or so I am assuming). Not so much the case with Uranium.

Gundam was intentionally left open-ended. So while any sequels to it might also be considered a cash-grab, at least Tomino's not trying to change what's been established.

I don't notice it in Tomino, because unlike Anno, he incorporates coherent pseudo-science into his work.

True, but it was a re-cap meant to sell a new movie, and more merchandise.

They did it twice, and all they gave fans was a stupid t-shirt.

I don't mind him making money. But he shouldn't be calling himself an "artist", when he's clearly just milking an unexpected phenomenon.

The manufacturer makes the bullets with uranium shells.

Care to back this up with any sources or interviews? The only reason Gundam, as far as I know, was left open-ended was because it really didn't do that well to begin with.

If you've watched the Zeta movies, especially in the end, things that are established HAVE been changed, things that further retcon ZZ and Chars Counterattack.

Psuedo science is still Psuedo science and you're picking at short straws here. It's apples and oranges.

Once again, this makes it bad how? Is this not the basis for just about every Anime movie based on a franchise?

No t-shirts. They're seperate and totally a non-issue.

Except for the fact that he has gone to do other works (directing His and Her Circumstances, Gunbuster, etc) and actually does understand the medium in a far higher capacity than you could ever COMPREHEND.

How are you so sure that this wasn't a Gainax/Bandai pitch, and if Anno didn't hop aboard, they wouldn't just get someone else to fill his place?

From what I understand as far as merchandise go, unless the director/whatever is deeply, heavily involved (IE owns rights to it), they stand to gain very little in the way of royalties

Anybody who thinks that having a character go berserk in anime is ripoff of another anime should get an education.

Next we'll hear about how Neia_7 is just a ripoff of UY

how D'eon is just ripping off the whole prerevolutionary France thing off from Rose of Versialles,

If it wasn't an initial hit, then at least Tomino left open the possibility of doing something like Gundam in the future. His different projects in-between Gundams obviously indicates he had different stories to tell.

Movies are usually different entities from the shows. Look at Macross: DYRL. EOE, however, was supposed to be the "real" continuation to the series, and now Anno's just acknowledging he doesn't really care about the story, just money from fans.

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blah blah blah one-liner that says nothing productive blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Well actually faggot blah blah blah blah blah i hate you because you're so similar to me blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

I don't see how this makes him any less creativley bankrupt than Anno, since a lot of Tomino's stories in the 80's still had a very similar feel to them, only with slightly different settings

And EoE WAS the real continuation of the series. This is a retelling. Zeta Gundam movies were a retelling. You're pulling hairs because Anno is doing something that quite a few other studios/people are doing

(Fist of the North Star, maybe? Buronson didn't work on any non north star/blue star material, does that make him then creativley bankrupt?

About the press release: It does sound like Anno is being rude, but quite honestly, a lot of press releases are written that way.

This translation was provided by Evan Miller (Jariten).

カラッとした晴天の下で自転車に乗るのはとても気持ちよく、しばし緊張を忘れられました。 二人乗りの前に乗せられ、後ろから鈴木さんにあれやこれやと指示されていた武田さんはそうでもなかったようですが。
It felt truly wonderful to ride beneath that crisp, clear blue sky, and I briefly forgot how nervous I was. I rode ahead of the bike for two, and although Takeda was pointing out the scenery to Suzuki behind me, it felt as if I was there by myself beneath that beautiful sky*.
Translator’s notes:
1: I added “beneath that beautiful sky” since the tone of the original Japanese indicates that the author enjoyed riding alone and felt as if there was no one else there. Literally translated, however, it sounds a bit darker, as if he was left behind.