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Tenbyakugon
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:13 am
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Smoke
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:09 pm
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Quote: | I'm not sure how I feel about this manga at the moment... It certainly doesn't help the scope of the whole arc right now bringing Sasuke back into play. It's becoming a bit tiresome to keep track of everyone's whereabouts; getting too complex, needs to be simplified. |
it definitely went all over the place as soon as the war began. Now there are 3 important battles (naruto/bee vs tobi, sages vs madara, and sasuke/itachi vs kabuto). The worst part about it is it leaves you feeling like "which battle are they gonna focus on this week" or will they even focus on a battle. The next chapter could be all flash backs (which is annoying) or about whats going on outside of the battles.
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Tenbyakugon
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:53 pm
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Smoke wrote: |
Quote: | I'm not sure how I feel about this manga at the moment... It certainly doesn't help the scope of the whole arc right now bringing Sasuke back into play. It's becoming a bit tiresome to keep track of everyone's whereabouts; getting too complex, needs to be simplified. |
it definitely went all over the place as soon as the war began. Now there are 3 important battles (naruto/bee vs tobi, sages vs madara, and sasuke/itachi vs kabuto). |
Those three alone take some effort to keep track of, not to mention the other bigger battles being fought against the army of Zetsu's elsewhere by everyone else.
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Agent355
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:52 am
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I'm enjoying the strange interplay between Itachi and Sasuke. It seems like Itachi finally understands how much his actions messed up Sasuke, and is taking responsibility for it. Sasuke, in turn, is becoming more of a sympathetic character as he admits his confusion about himself and his brother, and the entire Uchiha clan.
Also, how can you not like Sasuke's new nickname: "Dr. Snakes"?
Chapter 582 has me a bit apprehensive as we start an inevitably long Kabuto flashback. Does this mean Kabuto is going to be killed off soon? I actually would like to know where he's from...thus far, all we know is that he forgot his name and who his parent's were when he was a young child. Nothing else seems all that traumatic, yet.
(If the masked guy who claimed to be Madara turns out to be his father or something, I'm calling shenanigans! )
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RGaspar
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:33 pm
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Agent355 wrote: | Chapter 582 has me a bit apprehensive as we start an inevitably long Kabuto flashback. Does this mean Kabuto is going to be killed off soon? I actually would like to know where he's from...thus far, all we know is that he forgot his name and who his parent's were when he was a young child. Nothing else seems all that traumatic, yet.
(If the masked guy who claimed to be Madara turns out to be his father or something, I'm calling shenanigans! ) |
Judging from that very last chapter (583 should be out the door tomorrow or so!) I don't get Kabuto's words about how he was a lonely guy that nobody cared about. I mean...he's definitely still using those glasses that the nun gave to him when he was 5. If that doesn't show some kind of affection, then I don't know anymore.
I bet Kabuto is going to die soon (If the battle lasts too much, I predict June) and he'll kind of regret all his evil actions, and die with a smile, because he's going to join that nun and all his friends of the orphanage. Mark my words, Naruto always does that stuff
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Agent355
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:27 pm
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If there is one guy who shouldn't have Therapy-no-Jutsu in this manga, it's Kabuto, who so sincerely proclaimed that he took Naruto's influence to heart by absorbing all of Orochimaru's power/life force/whatever.
Thankfully, Naruto isn't fighting him, so he doesn't have to have a huge change.
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Tenbyakugon
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:06 pm
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Why did the chapter have to end where it did? It's likely this is the moment when Sasuke will see his brother for the last time. You don't interrupt what will likely be something tragic like that.
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RAmmsoldat
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:39 pm
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I've not read naruto in aaaages but i have read the last few chapters. i rekkon i'll just keep buying the collected volumes and i'll eventually get to the point i left it at.
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NeburPT
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:47 pm
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Tenbyakugon wrote: | Why did the chapter have to end where it did? It's likely this is the moment when Sasuke will see his brother for the last time. You don't interrupt what will likely be something tragic like that. |
Perhaps itachi has already activated the new technique and the body we see is simply an illusion or a momentary "death" (like Danzo when he used the izanagi). Either way Itachi wouldn't die unless he is immediately sealed after that hit, so in the worst case cenario Sasuke seems ready to attack Kabuto right away.
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RGaspar
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 12:56 am
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RAmmsoldat wrote: | I've not read naruto in aaaages but i have read the last few chapters. i rekkon i'll just keep buying the collected volumes and i'll eventually get to the point i left it at. |
Just out of curiosity, where did you left at?? Not to spoil things, just wanted to know.
If I was buying the physical copies, I'd have left at the Pain stage, for sure. That was the first (strong) signal the manga wasn't what it used to be.
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RAmmsoldat
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:41 am
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i think i left it alone just after the pain attack, I've read the odd chapter since then.
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NeburPT
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:48 pm
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RGaspar wrote: |
RAmmsoldat wrote: | I've not read naruto in aaaages but i have read the last few chapters. i rekkon i'll just keep buying the collected volumes and i'll eventually get to the point i left it at. |
Just out of curiosity, where did you left at?? Not to spoil things, just wanted to know.
If I was buying the physical copies, I'd have left at the Pain stage, for sure. That was the first (strong) signal the manga wasn't what it used to be. |
Gotta agree with you there, the whole conclusion to that arc has such an easy twist for the author to revert things to the way they were that it makes the attack much less important than it should have been, especially after what happened to Jiraiya and Itachi, some of the best arcs in my opinion...
I'm still enjoying, overall, the current chapters and looking forward to the ending but I would've prefered that the whole edo tensei thing didn't exist in the first place, along with the numerous and preachy flashbacks. The Kinkaku and Ginkaku chapters from the volume that just came out are some of the worst I've ever read in the manga...
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RAmmsoldat
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:02 pm
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that was my feeling, alot happened and i was sitting there reading it thinking "wow naruto hasn't been this good since the end of the chunin exams" and then bam it hits the reset button and you wonder why they bothered at all.
its not terrible but I really liked naruto when it first started and now i can take or leave it.
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NeburPT
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:30 pm
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Yeah, what I really liked about Naruto is that the story at times is much more meaningful and takes more risks than the majority of the shonen that is out there (and this gets a bit overlooked because of its popularity and, I believe, the shonen jump restrictions that don't let the author make all the hard decisions and kill more important characters), but since the end of the pain arc it has really lost an important part of that strength. It's just dragging a bit until it's conclusion and even the artwork has been letting me down (it was at its best during the beginning of Shippuden and the Sasori arc, my favorite part).
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Agent355
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:51 pm
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It's all about Kushina for me! Kishimoto wasn't planning to give her much development, but he turned that around and gave her an awesome backstory!
The war has had some good parts and some very underwhelming storytelling. I like how minor characters such as Darui, Killer Bee and even Chouji got development and time I the spotlight. OTOH, I'm still waiting for the full potential of other characters like Dan (what's the point of bringing him back to life if he's not going to see Tsunade?), Kakashi's "total rampage" was non-existent, and the less said about Ginkaku and Kinkaku, the better.
As for this week's chapter I really hope Itachi's not gone for good. These last few chapters were the first time I had any appreciation for Itachi or Sasuke (since Sasuke left the village). Confronted with his revived brother, Sasuke's finally acting like a relatable human being--he's hurt, confused, and just wants answers. If Itachi goes now, Sasuke will probably revert to the arrogant, rage-filled mess he was in, and I will once again root for his death rather than his reformation. If Kishimoto wants the audience to sympathize with Naruto's desire to bring Sasuke back, Sasuke needs to stay relatable. That will only happen if he has time for a real discussion with Itachi, not just bonding while preparing for an attack against Kabuto.
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