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Randall Miyashiro
 Posts: 2451 Location: A block away from Golden Gate Park |
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I just got my copy in and decided to give the DVD a whirl. The animation is amazing in this series and Geneon's transfer is really clear. Geneon has done (like their Zipang and Takahashi Anthology releases) what Bandai tends to do for the ED credits, They keep the intact Japanese credits with a partially translated compiled credits after episode four. I prefer this as I can associate the Kanji in staff names as well as see the pronunciation at the end of volume four. Granted it is not as neat as Funimation's alternate angle, but it sure beats VIz's replacing the Japanese credits with a generic non episode specific credits.
Did anyone else notice that there is a reversible cover on this release? Much like Bandai's Witch Hunter Robin and Gundam 0083, the other side of the cover has a different layout and images, but has all of the relevant data. Either cover would serve well as a cover and I might have problems remembering which one was used by Geneon marketing if the paper wasn't pre-scored. |
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DKL
 Posts: 1945 Location: California, USA |
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Wait... they're using BATCH credits?
... Are they at least grouped per episode? |
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Randall Miyashiro
Posts: 2451 Location: A block away from Golden Gate Park |
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They are much like the ones that you find on their previous releases. You get the header episode 1 with the main staff and cast for episode 1, and so forth. This is better than Bandai's batch credits (great term BTW) which has the original Japanese and non specific English forcing you to mentally cut and paste the names with the Kanji which is bad if your memory isn't so good or you don't know Japanese. Geneon's credits are way better than Viz's batch credits (BANDAI's Zeta box set suffered from this as well) which replaces the Japanese credits with batch credits leaving you guessing as to who worked on which episode. The third episodes animation director is someone by the name of Cindy H. Yamauchi. Is this the same person who has been translating the Kenshin manga in English? Is this a fan gone pro to the extreme? I believe there was another person who is listed in the credits with both a Western first and last name. I would love to here their stories since this is a topic that has been brought up a number of times. |
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DKL
Posts: 1945 Location: California, USA |
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That's REALLY good to hear (about the credits)
Wait... I remember that name from GUNGRAVE... I think... Yeah, she was the animation director for Gungrave. (according to the encyclopedia, at least... I'd get up and check the DVDs, but it's like 4 AM...) Oh yes, and success stories FTW... What the... she works at Viz? Yeah... I don't get it. EDIT: Oh, here... check out this interview: animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2003-06-11 |
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Deltakiral
 Posts: 3338 Location: Glendora, CA (Avatar Hei from Darker than BLACK) |
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I didn't have a chance to see my disc yet but damn do I love that metal case. One thing that kind of irked me the wrong way was that the sticker was placed on case instead of on the wrapping which really burns my goose. Cause now I need to buy goo be gone. But other wise I love the look and feel of the case, and I do like how the individual dvd will fit in the case very sweet. |
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DKL
Posts: 1945 Location: California, USA |
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Black Lagoon 1-4
Oh god, this show is so good. I know I shouldn't be screwing around right now (have to study for finals), but I think I'll just focus on the 4th episode since... Okay, so what's happening is that this episode: spoiler[Had some kinda dual narrative going on between the present day and 1945 Germany. What happens in the past is a romantic history story about how a German navy crew takes their sub around to do one last mission (to deliver a Japanese man somewhere), but end up being sunk by the Americans and the British (or something); it was actually a pretty good piece of drama, particularly the end where this one dude couldn’t let go of Nazi Germany and honestly believes that, one day, the Nazis shall rise back to power… and he has a painting that symbolizes this and wants to bring it out of Germany where the Americans won’t get their hands on it. That part of the story ends with the captain of the ship finding himself disgusted at that man’s delusions and how the Nazis have essentially pushed that same delusion on everyone else, to the extent where things like Nazi Germany are prioritized over something important like a man’s family. Then, amusingly, this all gets turned around in the present where a bunch of stereotypical Neo-Nazis (complete with stereotypical music and sterotypical clothes... no, really... who where's that kind of stuff in this day and age?) suddenly come up out of nowhere to acquire the painting while the Black Lagoon company is in the middle of plundering it for a client. That was so goddamn great. It was like they were COMPLETELY making fun of that guy holding onto the painting from the past. Brilliant.] This show is so good… I love the dub too… just wish I could do DTS 5.1… But yeah, it’s such a solid round of performances. Okay… off to study… |
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Randall Miyashiro
Posts: 2451 Location: A block away from Golden Gate Park |
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That is so cools since my friend's mother Elaine Clark directed Jojo's dub (along with Saikano). I need to ask her about Cindy Yamauchi since I'm sure they worked together on JoJo's. |
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Jedi General
 Posts: 2485 Location: Tucson, AZ |
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I was already gonna check out the dub of this series (I'd watched some of this fansubbed before it was licensed and liked it), but upon reading this great review, I'm going to be checking out it out much sooner now. I can't wait.
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EmperorBrandon
Encyclopedia Editor
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Unfortunately, it seems to becoming a trend for Geneon lately. It was confirmed recently that Geneon's release of Shonen Onmyoji will also have an Odex dub. For dub fans who are concerned, it is probably a good idea to send a letter to Geneon with concerns about their cost-cutting on dubs. We have heard great work from many of the studios Geneon has used in the past, whether from the American dub studios or Canadian ones (Black Lagoon itself being a recent example of a very good one there) and they have built up experienced anime voice talent pools. |
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Deacon Blues
Posts: 383 Location: Albuquerque, NM |
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Um... what''s so bad about the opening? Nothing. Exactly. Even if there was something in it, people wouldn't be able to readily understand it anyways. I used it as a poll for a class and 80% of the people misheard the song or didn't understand it at all. |
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Key
Moderator
 Posts: 18188 Location: Indianapolis, IN (formerly Mimiho Valley) |
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It does have a certain four-letter word that starts with "s" in it that normally gets bleeped out on TV/radio, and I had no problem making that out even without the subtitles. Beyond that, I'll admit I may have been overstating the case. EmperorBrandon: If the Karin dub sucks as badly as the previous ones by Odex, I will certainly take up your suggestion. |
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Jedi General
Posts: 2485 Location: Tucson, AZ |
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Uh oh, this doesn't sound good, not good at all. The Zipang dub is terrible, and so I'd hate to see Karin suffer the same fate. *Yells angrily, then bangs head and fist on desk after glancing at the encyclopedia* You've got to be kidding me! An Odex dub?!? Damn you, Geneon!!! And I was looking forward to the dub too. 
At least I don't have long before I find out the truth quality if this dub. My Karin DVD shipped a couple of days ago. At least there's still the Japanese track if all else fails. I have a soft spot for Karin's seiyuu, and that's good enough for me, even if I do prefer dubs. |
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Nebs
 Posts: 384 Location: University of Illinois |
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AnimeOnDVD got an early look at the first Karin DVD, & had this to say about the dub:
Source: http://www.animeondvd.com/reviews2/disc_reviews/6211.php |
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Yorokobi
 Posts: 2 Location: USA |
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The Lyric "S*** out of Luck, Go with my vision..." Yeah, once you "get" the lyrics you can almost tell what they are supposed to be, but I remember when I first heard it I thoght the opening stanza (is that the right term?) was... I have big gun I took it from my lord Sick with justice I just wanna bang you... 
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Airforce1
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just out of curiosity , has anyone here had trouble with the 5.1 surround sound on this dvd, when i select it in my system there is no sound, 2.1 works fine but not the 5.1.
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