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NEWS: Anime Studios Explore Profit-Sharing, Hollywood Remakes


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AstroNerdBoy



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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:32 am Reply with quote
"According to a Madhouse executive, efforts like these are an attempt to give American fans "stories that U.S. audiences can connect to," without necessarily pandering to audience tastes."

In other words, we'll domesticate the Hollywood release and it will end up having no heart and thus will ultimately fail.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:43 am Reply with quote
Shocked Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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The article also reports that as animators' wages have remained low, Japanese anime studios are increasingly losing talented staff to video game companies.

So...the reason that video games have better writing these days is also why anime sucks? Wow.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:18 am Reply with quote
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Studio 4°C's version of profit-sharing will distribute the proceeds from the upcoming Genius Party anthology anime between the seven creators that worked on its individual segments. According to 4°C producer Yukie Saeki, the anthology format itself is a way to ensure high-quality work, since it creates a sense of competition between the participating directors.


It is kinda wierd that they even have to explain this. Or I guess my question is: How were the creators getting paid before?

The opposite of this would be flat fees, or hourly wages. I guess I always assumed that creators (in this case people like; Koji Morimoto, Shinichiro Watanabe, Shoji Kawamori, Hideki Futamura, and Mahiro Maeda) would always get paid more if the anime does well?
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Samurai Drifter



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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:28 am Reply with quote
I'm not too worried. This has about as much of a chance as happening as the DBZ or Evangelion live-action movie.

If it does, though, the same thing that happened with the Lord of the Rings might happen with anime.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:33 pm Reply with quote
Fronzel wrote:
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The article also reports that as animators' wages have remained low, Japanese anime studios are increasingly losing talented staff to video game companies.

So...the reason that video games have better writing these days is also why anime sucks? Wow.


I sure hope were not referring to this (or that)as good writing because videogames don't necessarily have the best, but I bet the pay is better and we all know money makes the world go around Wink. Also don't animatior get paid less then nothing, I mean why work so hard to only get small income....it's not exactly the way I like to work.
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Madame



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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:47 pm Reply with quote
I will start looking forward to a live action Ghost in the Shell when they announce that Yoko Kanno will be doing the music.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 1:29 pm Reply with quote
Live action adaptations of anime are a tough subject for a few reasons.

First off, they risk changing or condensing the story too much that fans of the original series will be mad and not watch, but won't Americanize it enough (in an attempt to keep the original fans watching) to pull a good enough size of new fans.

I think a lot of them could do well because the stories are often very original, but adapting anime is, I think, an even bigger challenge than adapting a book.
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I sure hope were not referring to this (or that)as good writing because videogames don't necessarily have the best, but I bet the pay is better and we all know money makes the world go around Wink. Also don't animator get paid less then nothing, I mean why work so hard to only get small income....it's not exactly the way I like to work.


I think there referring more to ...fully animated H-games or just H-game in general why work hard for little pay on anime when you can do fairly easier erotic CG's and animations for a dating sim or H-game and make the same or even more for less work

hmmm .... Japanese animators are"working smarter, not harder" I guess -_-

just an example i guess http://erogos.yui-artworks.jp/soft/love/down.html
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Iritscen



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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 1:52 pm Reply with quote
Madame wrote:
I will start looking forward to a live action Ghost in the Shell when they announce that Yoko Kanno will be doing the music.


And that Angelina Jolie is Motoko and she will be reproducing the movie's thermoptic camo scenes faithfully. Twisted Evil
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rhodesama



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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 2:11 pm Reply with quote
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According to a Madhouse executive, efforts like these are an attempt to give American fans "stories that U.S. audiences can connect to," without necessarily pandering to audience tastes.


One of the reasons that I love anime is because it usually offers something more interesting and different than the type of thing the western world puts out. Oh well, I guess everyone wants to make a buck these days...
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 4:41 pm Reply with quote
Samurai Drifter wrote:
I'm not too worried. This has about as much of a chance as happening as the DBZ or Evangelion live-action movie.
Exactly. I'd like to add James Cameron's Battle Angel and Steven Speilberg's Lupin the Third to that list. Hey, if the bloated Hollywood studios are willing to throw money at anime companies just for the option of making a movie based on one of their properties which will likely never see the light of day anyway, I say more power to the anime companies.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 4:51 pm Reply with quote
Emperor Fred wrote:
Samurai Drifter wrote:
I'm not too worried. This has about as much of a chance as happening as the DBZ or Evangelion live-action movie.
Exactly. I'd like to add James Cameron's Battle Angel and Steven Speilberg's Lupin the Third to that list. Hey, if the bloated Hollywood studios are willing to throw money at anime companies just for the option of making a movie based on one of their properties which will likely never see the light of day anyway, I say more power to the anime companies.

Problem is, we might get the Aeon Flux versions.
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ikillchicken



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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:36 pm Reply with quote
The key to making a good live action american adaptation is this:

- Dont change it and americanize it so much that you piss off the Anime fans.

- Change it enough that it isnt just a live action duplcate, and comes off as weird to most american audiences.

balance is key.

The trouble is most times they either mess up the second part and its basically a huge buget project for the relatively small group of nothing but fans. Or they mess up the first one, and the fans hate it, and then its a moderate success for others.

Unfortunately for us its usually more profitable to abandon the fans.
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Baal Zebul



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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:58 pm Reply with quote
A better live action adaption of the Kerberos series might not actually be that bad.
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