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Zac
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:13 am Reply with quote
ArielTsuki wrote:

Zac, you liked Veronica Mars? I really don't see why people liked it. I lways thought it was an inferior Nancy Drew copy anyway. I watched a few episodes and decided I've seen better and it wasn't for me.


It's very noir; nothing at all like Nancy Drew, actually. Really nothing at all like that and I'm surprised you would draw that comparison.

Having read a lot of Raymond Chandler and watching a hell of a lot of detective noir, it appealed to me. It was a flawed show but I liked the characters a lot.

Also, regarding an earlier comment, you can never have enough Logan.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:26 am Reply with quote
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If anyone I knew said they liked guro, it'd be a red flag, look out, future serial killer here


Yep, just like everyone that goes out to watch horror movies (and then rants and raves about how awesome it was when *insert character*'s blood spurted for several feet) turns into a mass murder.

Ugh.


Theres a big big difference between extreme violence and guro. Though its kinda concerning, most people find violence cool. Idunno if thats a good thing but Its fairly common. Whats not common is the combination of violence and sex. I wouldnt say anyone who is into guro is a "future serial killer". For starters, Future Rapist would be more approprite. But more importantly, just because you like guro, it doesnt mean you will turn into a killer/rapist. However I have no problem making the blanket statement: If you get off to guro there is definitely something wrong with you and you probably should get some therapy.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:53 am Reply with quote
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Yep, just like everyone that goes out to watch horror movies (and then rants and raves about how awesome it was when *insert character*'s blood spurted for several feet) turns into a mass murder.


Er, the guys I see online going on and on about "the kills" in movies like Hostel and were upset that there was no brutal murder/rape in The Hills Have Eyes 2 are nearly as creepy as someone who's really in to guro.


Those are the people that scare me. Hell, I don't watch most of these 'thrillers' these days because of all the blood. It grosses me out, I can't stand it. And I've gone to Guro boards since the days when 4chan still had one.

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Theres a big big difference between extreme violence and guro. Though its kinda concerning, most people find violence cool. Idunno if thats a good thing but Its fairly common. Whats not common is the combination of violence and sex. I wouldnt say anyone who is into guro is a "future serial killer". For starters, Future Rapist would be more approprite. But more importantly, just because you like guro, it doesnt mean you will turn into a killer/rapist. However I have no problem making the blanket statement: If you get off to guro there is definitely something wrong with you and you probably should get some therapy.


But not all guro is violent. Or even extreme. Sure, you've got beheadings and crap, but you've also got pieces that the average person would call beautiful and peaceful, if not for the slit wrists or ligature marks on the neck. And not all Guro involves rape, pain, or death either. It's a much bigger, much broader genre than people seem to realize.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:26 am Reply with quote
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Others produce ero guro as a genre of Japanese pornography and hentai involving blood, gore, disfiguration, violence, mutilation, urine, enemas, or feces.
I was eating breakfast as I read this. Yummy.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:32 am Reply with quote
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However, if it's going beyond that, you're in trouble. If, once the credits roll on the final episode of Lucky Star, you find yourself sitting alone in a dark room, beads of sweat rolling down your pallid visage as your teeth clatter on the unforgivingly cold barrel of a 9mm handgun while you panic inside, wondering if a world with no new Lucky Star episodes is a world you want to live in, your trigger finger twitching ever closer to its final destination, whispering to you the sweet promise of sending a glorious bullet through your synapses and splattering your consciousness all over the Haruhi Suzumiya wallscroll behind you... yeah, you should probably see a doctor about that.


Wow Zac...so descriptive...you sure you weren't describing how you felt after AX realizing Otakon had maliciously toyed with you and set you up for a few weeks of hell on earth??? Laughing

Flake--- I believe that was in regards to ADV. If I remember correctly that person posted in a thread here, forget which one, and accused ANN of being ADV's pet whore basically selling themselves out and turning trick for ADV to make a quick buck. ANN you dirty filthy hoe! lol. If that ever happened I swear Tony would start his own version of the Knights Templar to combat his one time masters and the evils of ADV! (you know we love you Tony heh)

Rant--- I think part of the fascination with giant robots is that they're giant. A samurai or pirate is still in essence human, but a giant robot is something more. It's a symbol of power, authority, and undying righteous fury! Sorry, 80's kid here. I do honestly think part of the appeal of the giant robot is the fact it's larger then life. It's more then simply a weapon, it's a symbol of ultimate power and coolness. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:47 am Reply with quote
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Theres a big big difference between extreme violence and guro. Though its kinda concerning, most people find violence cool. Idunno if thats a good thing but Its fairly common. Whats not common is the combination of violence and sex. I wouldnt say anyone who is into guro is a "future serial killer". For starters, Future Rapist would be more approprite. But more importantly, just because you like guro, it doesnt mean you will turn into a killer/rapist. However I have no problem making the blanket statement: If you get off to guro there is definitely something wrong with you and you probably should get some therapy.


But not all guro is violent. Or even extreme. Sure, you've got beheadings and crap, but you've also got pieces that the average person would call beautiful and peaceful, if not for the slit wrists or ligature marks on the neck. And not all Guro involves rape, pain, or death either. It's a much bigger, much broader genre than people seem to realize.


Well, I'll admid I've never read any guro. To be truthful I hadent even heard of it until today. You probably know more about it than me. But by its definition it would seem that unless it contains that kinda stuff it isnt guro. Are you saying that this definition is innacurate?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:08 am Reply with quote
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Also, regarding an earlier comment, you can never have enough Logan.


Damn Right! I was sad to see Veronica Mars end. There just aren't enough bad ass, smartalicky, vengeful chick detectives on TV these days. At least I still have anime.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:17 am Reply with quote
This column may explain some of the appeal of mecha & giant robots.

Anime Cons: I definitely wouldn't recommend a "Big Con" for someone's first experience. The first major con I went to was Akon in 2006, and while there were a lot of good points to it, the crowds, the lines, the funk, and the insanity were just very draining. To this day I'm not sure how I managed to drive 5 hours on the way home starting at Emporia KS in the middle of the night (as well as the first few hours out of Dallas) without falling asleep and running off the road. I don't know what part of the midwest that person's from, but Anime Central would be my choice for a major con closer to home. And there are plenty of smaller cons where you can have fun without the hassles of huge conventions, such as Anime Iowa (Iowa City, IA), Anime Detour (Minneapolis, MN), Naka-kon (Kansas City, MO), Anime Nebraskon (Lincoln, NE - go to it and meet me IRL! [/shameless plug]), and Sogencon (Sioux Falls, SD). All of these have at least some industry guest presence, though not any Japanese guests or company leaders announcing the hottest new licenses.

Ero-guro: Yeah, I knew it existed before; no, I don't plan on checking it out. However, the argument of [reading ero-guro] ---> [people committing violent rape/murders] is about the same as the [reading lolicon] --> [preying on real children]. And we all know how easily and efficiently that one got setted.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:18 am Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:27 am Reply with quote
As I understand it, yuri is lesbian stories (not necessarily erotica) written by women, for women. There are lots of other names for the stories about women written for men. And yes, the intended audience makes a huge difference, because it shapes the whole outlook of the manga. The first yuri publisher in the U.S. is ALC Publishing, which you can find at http://www.yuricon.org/

As with any genre, the quality of yuri varies enormously. There are some very sophisticated, well told stories out there. Rica 'tte Kanje, by Rica Takashima, is funny and cute—Shaenon Garrity called it "as cute as a blender full of kittens." Go check out her LJ post on it for some scans. On the other hand, Blue, by Kiriko Nananan, is more serious and moody. The Yuri Monogatari anthologies, published by ALC, are samplers that include Japanese and global artists working in a variety of styles. Erica Friedman is the person behind ALC and her website, http://okazu.blogspot.com/, is a good resource for finding yuri manga in English or Japanese.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:24 am Reply with quote
I agree with Fiction Alchemist. I remember watching Trigun and Cowboy Bebop (before they were on adult swim) when I was still pretty new to anime. I started to feel as though the last DVD of any given series was deliberately arranged to break my heart into little pieces. I've seen a lot more anime since then, of course, but it does seem that something tragic will happen in the last four episodes of a series that I really like.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:25 am Reply with quote
ikillchicken wrote:
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Theres a big big difference between extreme violence and guro. Though its kinda concerning, most people find violence cool. Idunno if thats a good thing but Its fairly common. Whats not common is the combination of violence and sex. I wouldnt say anyone who is into guro is a "future serial killer". For starters, Future Rapist would be more approprite. But more importantly, just because you like guro, it doesnt mean you will turn into a killer/rapist. However I have no problem making the blanket statement: If you get off to guro there is definitely something wrong with you and you probably should get some therapy.


But not all guro is violent. Or even extreme. Sure, you've got beheadings and crap, but you've also got pieces that the average person would call beautiful and peaceful, if not for the slit wrists or ligature marks on the neck. And not all Guro involves rape, pain, or death either. It's a much bigger, much broader genre than people seem to realize.


Well, I'll admid I've never read any guro. To be truthful I hadent even heard of it until today. You probably know more about it than me. But by its definition it would seem that unless it contains that kinda stuff it isnt guro. Are you saying that this definition is innacurate?


See, but Guro's a hard thing to define. The only true and applicable definition is 'anything grotesque is guro' but what, exactly, do you define as 'groteque'? What one person finds as qrotesque another may not. Yes, you've got the extreme blood-and-deaht end with dismembered corpses, but the gentle 'romantic' death scenes also count. Scat is also considered by many to fall under the mantle of guro. And then you have things that are just bizarre (such as the previously mentioned works of H.R. Giger.

Limiting it as you do would be the same as saying that, to bring in another part of this weeks article, all Sci-fi shows are about Giant Robots. Wink

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I agree with Fiction Alchemist. I remember watching Trigun and Cowboy Bebop (before they were on adult swim) when I was still pretty new to anime. I started to feel as though the last DVD of any given series was deliberately arranged to break my heart into little pieces. I've seen a lot more anime since then, of course, but it does seem that something tragic will happen in the last four episodes of a series that I really like.


Wolf's Rain Crying or Very sad

I just finished that series a few days ago. The last few episodes were just... so sad. And after it finished I got that "This show as awesome!" eurphoria but that soon faded inot "Aww man, it's over Crying or Very sad". First series I ever got 'post anime depression" from. I think the only reason DBZ ending didn't do that was because I'd become so much of a fanfic writing-holic that it never really ended for me, I could (and still do) just keep coming up with my own adventures.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:12 am Reply with quote
Hahahahaha! The look on that kitten's face. That's the funniest thing I've seen all week.

The explanation of the popularity of mecha seems incredibly simple to me. I grew up mumble-something years ago and when I was very very tiny used to watch Giant Robo with my little brother, who was completely in love with the series. Why? Empowerment. What little kid doesn't want a giant mechanical friend that responds only to him and makes him the most powerful and important kid on the planet?

Mecha's the same way. It's like a superpower, or a special weapon, or becoming Harry Potter. Kids all crave it. And in a world where many of us aren't as in control of our destiny as we'd prefer, it's a natural fantasy to be able to power-up a bit.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:33 am Reply with quote
That pic of the kitten is the cutest thing I have seen in awhile. I think she wants to be friends with the ducks, not eat them!

Wow, I have known what guro is for years and have still managed to never go "find" some as I know it doesn't appeal to me.

Zalis, do you not attend Anime Iowa as your location says you live near there?
I would love to attend a con (anywhere) however I doubt I ever will be able to. None are very close to me, and I don't know anyone to attend with/drive with that enjoys anime as well. Then there are other reasons, work/family issues, I doubt I can ever, however it remains one of those things I would like to do.
I don't know that I would care if it were big or small, however this made me think that mid size has advantages over large.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:50 am Reply with quote
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So would and example of ero guro be the manga Remote?


Nope, I don't remember any dismember or disembowling during sex in that manga...

Or close ups of intestine and other internal organs...
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