Forum - View topicHey, Answerman! [2007-07-13]
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Richard J.
 Posts: 3367 Location: Sic Semper Tyrannis. |
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For once, I'm going to keep it short. (Well, short for me anyway.)
Fansubs: I'm going to stop watching them. I've found that, overall, they're actually making my anime fan experience less enjoyable. Yes, I've founds some great series through fansubs, but at the same time, I've also found myself feeling anxiety and worry about series being licensed and how they'll be handled. (Not to mention bitter disappointment that forces me to add ever more titles to my "will give a proper R1 release to if I ever get enough money to relicense" list. Yes it is real and yes I will if I ever have the money.) If I keep watching any fansubs, it will be series that have, in my mind, a less than 20% chance of being licensed. (I don't see anyone picking up Today in Class 5-2 anytime soon. I know Zac, I'm horrible.  )
The Rant: Considering that I'm very anti-censorship and also very pro-"parents should be parents" I almost skipped reading the rant. It's like asking Jesus to read the bible. It's redundant. I read it anyway to be fair. Most experts will tell you that parents can and do play a major role in how their kids turn out. If parents are consistent with the way they enforce rules, if they actually tell their kids the truth about things, the vast majority of time the kids will come out great regardless of how much garbage they get exposed to. If you don't want your kids being exposed to naughty things, don't buy it for them and deal with inevitable slip-ups with a cool head. Trying to make everything kid friendly is incredibly stupid. (They do grow up afterall.) |
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rocklobster
 Posts: 200 Location: Planet Claire |
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If Disney is worried about its reputation, it's too late. It was ruined when they made all those horrible direct-to-video sequels to movies that didn't need them.
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CCSYueh
 Posts: 2707 Location: San Diego, CA |
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Like going to a movie & it reeking? Usually once you get to the half-way point, most theaters won't refund your money. How about paying for a play & the night you go the big star is ill so you paid big bucks for someone else? Or maybe it's an off night & you get a lousy performance, Like watching a series on tv & getting to the end & it being so horrible you feel like that's XX hours of your life gone forever for no good reason? (I've actually felt that way about a couple movies-not only a waste of time & money, but they sucked extra life out of me-I swear they stole time off the back end of my life & I will die that much sooner. Was I pissed that I bought Spiral BEFORE they boxed it from the box +1 dvd point & they NEVER even answered the pitch question (What are the Blade Children?). Yeah, a bit, but overall, the eps were pretty good, the bishies pretty, the cast in Japanese good, so it wasn't a total loss. Anime is the one entertainment genre where a segment of the audience demands to see it all for free so MAYBE they'll buy it-why? There aren't any sure things in life. I've gone to the same restaurant & gotten a bad meal once in awhile. Why are anime fans so spoiled? So I got to the last Spiral dvd & they didin't answr any questions. Haven't we seen that other places? Books? Guess what-to be continued. Anime fans (non Japanese) are really, really spoiled . How do you think the fan in Japan feels buying an OVA sereis they have to pay way more for? Or watching a series pay-per-view? They don't get to watch it for free & pay if they feel it's worth it. What makes fans downloading fansubs better than Japanese anime fans? |
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Berserkfury819
 Posts: 229 Location: Detroit Mi. Spider-Man is dead. R.I.P. |
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That has to be the best analogy ever! 
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Richard J.
Posts: 3367 Location: Sic Semper Tyrannis. |
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Personally, I liked the Spiral anime's ending. Sure it's WAY too open and there are far too many loose plot threads left, but at least it leaves the viewer with a hopeful feeling.
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CrazyCanuck
 Posts: 100 Location: Canada |
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The original Black Cauldron release had the Disney logo. I bought it. (I saw it in the theater too, mind you.) |
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mistress_reebi
Posts: 735 Location: Canada |
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I agree, if parents tell their kids about things they accidently saw instead of making a big scene a child will learn instea of being sheltered The moment the parents make a big scene the more curious a kid wants to go after it, then end up learning the wrong information. Parents don't have to vividly explain situations, but in a way a child would understand. Adults need entertainment too so everything can't be children friendly all the time. Even TV companies know at midnight most people watching aren't children so they need to follow the niche market. If a company labels an age warning parents have no right to complain unless it was label wrong, which is extremely rare so they shouldn't complain or buy it for their child. It's not child abuse to tell a child "no, you can't watch Beserk because of so and so." Parents need tol earn to read labels and say no, as long as the kid understands why instead of just buying whatever and getting into a fit over it without explaining it to their kids. European media is way more liberal and their children aren't corrupt. Last edited by mistress_reebi on Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:07 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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dormcat
Encyclopedia Editor
 Posts: 9902 Location: New Taipei City, Taiwan, ROC |
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I don't see European children making more troubles than their American counterparts. |
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Evelas
 Posts: 107 Location: AL (inactive, now using Aeriven) |
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Didn't Disney release My Neighbor Totoro here? And didn't it have a scene where the dad and two kids bathed together? Is there something worse about the scene in Only Yesterday? I haven't seen it, so I don't know for sure. I know others have said it before, but not releasing a movie for those two reasons is complete and utter bull. Kids are going to find out about it anyway, and I'm frankly getting tired of companies like Disney trying to do the job that parents are supposed to be doing. Kids nowadays are too damn sheltered. |
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ikillchicken
 Posts: 7272 Location: Vancouver |
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Its really not fair to blame disney though. Theryre just making the wise buisness decision here. It would be stupid of them to ignore such stuff and risk causing controversy or some kind of incident.
Its not like Disney has decided its their mission to protect the children. Its people who demand that of them and Im sure they dont like it any better than you do. |
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chocho
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Someone else could always licence it instead of Di$ney. If Di$ney don't want to, then it doesn't preclude others doing it (or does it? Because then choosing not to release it really is equivalent to censorship.)
As for fansubs... there are a number of things on my mind right now. 1. (has been said) Some series have a very low chance of being licenced, whether it be for a particular reason, or just that nobody can be bothered. Personally, I wish Oishinbo would get picked up. It was a great series and funnily enough, didn't even get fully fansubbed. Two episodes were done, which was enough for me to want the rest. And now I can't even get it whether I pay or not. 2. Series which air in TV on Japan, can be viewed for free (let's not go into an argument discussing how the Japanese have to pay a tiny fee to run a TV set in their house. Nobody cares about this technicality.) So why should we have to buy a DVD to see a series once? Rental shops in my area carry only the most mainstream stuff (basically no TV series, movies only.) The only TV channels that carry anime are on cable which costs more than video rental, and furthermore all the shows are dubbed (f**k that.) For this purpose, fansubs. When I feel like I want to watch a series more than once or twice, I do buy the DVD. I really do. 3. Glitzy fonts do suck, but if you don't like the fonts a group uses, use another group. There are plenty of groups (read: the majority) who don't use glitzy fonts. And besides, nothing can be worse than the super low resolution yellow crap that comes on DVDs. You have no idea how that looks on a 1080p TV. The letters look like the ? on the side of a ? box in the original Mario Bros. It makes me want to headbutt the TV. And finally: 4. I wish fansubs really were the "whole product", because then we wouldn't have to waste time waiting for companies to add shitty dubs before allowing us to buy the "whole product". |
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Berserkfury819
Posts: 229 Location: Detroit Mi. Spider-Man is dead. R.I.P. |
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I think that Disney seems to have lost its way since Walt died. I agree that it makes no sense getting upset over a couple of scenes in Only Yesterday when the released My Neighbor Totoro over here. What about Pirates of the Carribean? That had a lot of worse stuff than Only Yesterday. Disney seems to be worrying about their family image, but they are not a family company anymore. Disney owns Miramax which released Kill Bill, and while I loved Kill Bill, it certainly is not for kids.
Richard J. Your Welcome.
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Defiant7
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I believe Disney owns the North American distribution rights, so right now only Disney can say if it gets a R1 release. |
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mistress_reebi
Posts: 735 Location: Canada |
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Oops, that was a typo. I meant to say and their childeran AREN'T being corrupt. Thanks for pointing that out. |
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ichiro3923
 Posts: 167 Location: hiding in your closet watching you |
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This may seem off topic, but I hope the next answerman article will discuss something about "Rebuild of Evangelion". I never even watched the Evangelion series or movies but the Trailer (w/ a different version of the song "Fly Me To The Moon") is getting me hyped.
So what's the deal?: Is the movie just a repeat of the series in a shorter time w/ better animation, or is there more (such as it's more 'faithful' to the manga)? Maybe ANN reported it and had an article about it, but I may have missed it... |
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