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REVIEW: Death Note GN 12

Super Ska Master wrote:

Art graded a B? What the hell? Death Note has the best art I've ever seen in a manga series. ESPECIALLY in the last volume. The final scenes of the ending are breathtaking. This review lost all it's credability with that score IMO.

I agree. It has a level of detail that very few works have.

Hell, if you don't frighten the masses with bad consequences, you will not have a stable government.

Hell, if you don't frighten the masses with bad consequences, you will not have a stable government. For examples, in America, we have a justice system that doles out punishments if we broke a certain law. Break the law and you'll pay for it. Hell, in most states, if the crime is serious enough, you can basically lose your life. The tactics that Light used aren't that different from that.

Plus, Light was never on the side of the law enforcement in the first place

Note, Light has going after only the people who were trying to catch him. With the best dectectives of the world after you, do you really think it's wise to leave them to their own devices?

Besides, what I don't get from some fans is that people treat the police as they were innocent civilans. Remember, for them, catching Light basically killing him as well, in a way since Light is mostly was to be executed once captured.

The key to L's downfall was that he second-guessed himself alot and he needs a sure thing before he makes any move.

Light is actually smarter than L (and Near is also) according to the upcoming Vol 13.

britannicamoore wrote:

but I was upset with how spoiler[patheic he seemed to get at the end. i wish he had of won when I read him begging for his life]

You do realize the entire point of the comic is that Light is an irredeemable murderer and a vicious narcissistic scumbag, right?

I don't get how anyone could read this comic and consider that character a "badass". If anything it speaks to the ridiculous antisocial insane fantasies of many anime fans out there, and that makes me sad.

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Actually, the whole series is that there's basically no "right" side to the matter. No one can deny that the world that Light was making was safer to live in.

I can totally deny it. If you want to constantly be frightened into doing the "right" thing, you should really move to China or Saudi Arabia. Like Bush, Light is wrong, because he kills with impunity without understanding the context behind people's actions. And he kills, because it makes him feel morally superior and boosts his ego, not because he's actually doing anyone a favor. In fact, like Bush, the fact that Light is willing to stab law enforcement in the back-to continue his charade-shows how reprehensible and unhinged he really is, compared to L.

No offense to your writers, I think they're awesome, but why are you reviewing the same manga title twice and in such a short time? (In Right Turn Only and now this.) I guess I could understand if your two reviewers had vastly different opinions, but it seems like they more or less feel the same way about the series.

I'm sorry but I disagree. i feel Light was right in what he did.

You're always talking about how preverse people are who read lolicon materials, but the people who actually go out and rape kids are some sick people.

many of them don't repent for what they'e done and as soon as they get free they return to what they did before. That's why you have so many repeat offenders.

Many of them did though- and thats why I think during spoiler[the tail end of Light's reign] crime had dropped 70%.

Don't get me wrong, I also realize it was because many of the crimnals of the world were probably dead. spoiler[But the world fell right back into chaos as soon as Light died and that seems to be the only way to get over to some people]

he was making the world a better place. is the world better with people stealing from each other for money, killing because they want to simply take something from someone esle? Raping because they want to feel good about themselves, or taking advantage of kids because they can hold control over them? It's not.

Light is nothing like Bush. Bush is sending people to slaughter for
the money. Light killed people to stop evil.

spoiler[Which he, I admit, evenutally became. But his overall goal still remained the same and I think that if he he beat Near and kept going the world would have been a better place. ]

spoiler[The fact that his moral reasoning is based on the logical fallacy that Light himself cannot be evil made twelve the best volume for me (since one and two, at least). I wonder how many readers were left feeling like Teru Mikami at Light's downfall?]

I cannot express how much it scares me that anyone would think Light was in the right for what he did. Yes, I'll admit he had somewhat good intentions. But his methods were so far from right that these good intentions are completely negated, plus he does definitely kill some people who were completely innocent during the course of the series, because they got in his way.

Of course, L also isn't a purely good character and got quite scary at times too. But he generally stayed on the side of the law at least.

What Light does is murder, plain and simple.

britannica:

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I'm sorry but I disagree. i feel Light was right in what he did.

So he was right to kill law-abiding cops?

britannica:

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many of them don't repent for what they'e done and as soon as they get free they return to what they did before. That's why you have so many repeat offenders.

The repeat offender myth is what keeps ex-cons who've served their sentences from being able to return to society. It relegates them to the status of second-class citizens.

britannica:

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Many of them did though- and thats why I think during spoiler[the tail end of Light's reign] crime had dropped 70%.]

Did crime drop because people were afraid to be killed, or did law enforcement get so tied down with jailing Kira, that criminals got smart enough to cover their tracks?

britannica:

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Don't get me wrong, I also realize it was because many of the crimnals of the world were probably dead. spoiler[But the world fell right back into chaos as soon as Light died and that seems to be the only way to get over to some people]

So you're saying mob rule by a cult which embraces Kira isn't chaos?

britannica:

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he was making the world a better place. is the world better with people stealing from each other for money, killing because they want to simply take something from someone esle? Raping because they want to feel good about themselves, or taking advantage of kids because they can hold control over them? It's not.

But you're looking at it in simplistic terms. Not everyone steals, kills, and rapes
because they enjoy it.

britannica:

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Light is nothing like Bush. Bush is sending people to slaughter for the money. Light killed people to stop evil.

No, that's Cheney's motive. Bush is a murderer, because he genuinely believes he is in the right. Hence why he and Light both enjoy the phrase, "evildoers".

britannica:

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spoiler[Which he, I admit, evenutally became. But his overall goal still remained the same and I think that if he he beat Near and kept going the world would have been a better place. ]

If he beat Near, that would make him dictator-for-life.

Treetastic wrote:

spoiler[The fact that his moral reasoning is based on the logical fallacy that Light himself cannot be evil made twelve the best volume for me (since one and two, at least). I wonder how many readers were left feeling like Teru Mikami at Light's downfall?]

Hehe, spoiler[I kinda felt disappointed and REALLY wanted Light to win...I HIGHLY doubt anyone went that far though...]

You can't deny the fact that he DID clean up the world in some ways.

Cops strive to protect and stop crime. Crime was being stopped- they should have let it happen.

is it not true that a large group of offenders repeat the same offense when freed?

how many times does the same individual have to touch someone inappropriately or harm people before they're deemed unfit for soceity?

neither of us know the answer to this question.

I think spoiler[ if light had got a bit more time] everything would have settled down and the world would have gotten even better.

But I still think light's overall reasoning and goals were correct.

it's also questionable as to if Bush believes he's right.

I think he knows he's wrong- but he's fucked up so badly he can't admit it.

I think that a good majority of the world would be happy to live 99% crime free.

His reasoning is that he has to kill anyone he can to insure "peace", even if it means people who want the same thing, but who don't believe in his methods.

I think that a good majority of the world would be happy to live 99% crime free.

Also spoiler[I thought that it was misa on the last page saying that she missed kira] i guess not though.

Yeah, that was definitely spoiler[Misa on the last page]... though I read this manga a really long time ago, and then, I was completely sure it was her.

Dear Ms. Lawrence

I just read your review of Death Note Graphic Novel 12 and I noticed that you mention that they never explained what happened to Misa. I'm pretty sure the female figure shown in the last panel of the epilogue chapter was Misa.