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NEWS: Crunchyroll, TV Tokyo Sue YouTube Users for Unauthorized Anime Uploading

Sorraffy wrote:

Crunchyroll .... Sue YouTube Users for Unauthorized Anime Uploading think I just found the definition of "ironic"

Doesn't Chrunchyroll upload episodes legally on their website?
Perhaps i have missed something...

Yes, this is an ironic development given Crunchyroll's origins, but that's beside the point. They went legit and are now playing by legit rules, so they have to act to enforce the best interests of themselves and the companies that they have licensing arrangements with.

Animax does not hold the streaming rights for the shows, they are merely one of the broadcasters of them. TV Tokyo is another broadcaster. The rights are granted by the rights holders, most likely the "Production Committee" associated with each show. Crunchyroll is has payed for exclusive rights to the first week after broadcast "worldwide". Last I knew, Hungary is in the world, is it not?

Allow me to explain for you and anyone else who is unaware. Crunchyroll was original an illegal streaming site that worked pretty much just how it works now. Charge memberships for HQ, SD was free. They used free fansubs they weren't responsible for to make their money.

Now they're legal of course, but the money to make that happen was mad by commiting multiple illegal acts.

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Animax does not hold the streaming rights for the shows, they are merely one of the broadcasters of them. TV Tokyo is another broadcaster. The rights are granted by the rights holders, most likely the "Production Committee" associated with each show. Crunchyroll is has payed for exclusive rights to the first week after broadcast "worldwide". Last I knew, Hungary is in the world, is it not?

Bleach: "Availability for Bleach Seasons 1-15: Sorry, due to licensing limitations, videos are unavailable in your region."

Naruto: "Availability for Naruto Seasons 1-9: Sorry, due to licensing limitations, videos are unavailable in your region."

Now ain't that funny. And nope, the world starts at Austria and ends with the US.

Since they don't have the streaming right in my counrty, a Hungarian court couldn't care less about their claims. There are no Hungarian parties that would gain anything from such lawsuit, nobody would pay fat forints for the court under the table, so they also wouldn't give a flying f*ck about the whole ordeal. And hi again, different copyright laws! And you too, bootleg country!

Ah piracy...the eternal struggle. When will this kind of stuff end? Virtually everything is streamed as quickly as possible, and people are still not satisfied? Ugh.

Allow me to explain for you and anyone else who is unaware. Crunchyroll was original an illegal streaming site that worked pretty much just how it works now. Charge memberships for HQ, SD was free. They used free fansubs and shows they weren't responsible for to make their money.

FaytLein wrote:

Ah piracy...the eternal struggle. When will this kind of stuff end? Virtually everything is streamed as quickly as possible, and people are still not satisfied? Ugh.

It must be nice living in a country where everything is streamed legally and as quickly as possible. Last time I tried to watch a legal stream (Tiger & Bunny in case you're wondering) I got region blocked everywhere, including the streams for the UK and France.

Try Naruto Shippuden or the latest episode of Bleach.

Crunchyroll would not be suing the Hungarian if they hadn't uploaded the new episodes within the first week.

If the quality of the video is the problem then how just about watching the episode you wanna watch on CR and not watch it. Let it play in the backround and download a higher quality fansub version. So I guess that argument isn't valid anymore.

"great and irreparable injury that cannot fully be compensated or measured in money"

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Try Naruto Shippuden or the latest episode of Bleach.

Bleach: "There are no episodes available."

Well...

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Crunchyroll would not be suing the Hungarian if they hadn't uploaded the new episodes within the first week.

And that doesn't change the fact that they won't get anywhere because there is no Hungarian interest in this lawsuit, so no Hungarian court or the Hungarian police will care about it. What would Crunchyroll do, send the SWAT? Since the kid did not gain money from the uploads he did not commit crime, and since the copyright laws of the two countries are vastly different from each other even an average lawyer would be able to laugh in the court's face and say they are the ones who should sue Crunchyroll for libel.

The Right of Distribution
Article 23
(1) The author shall have the exclusive right to distribute his work and to authorize others therefor. The making
accessible to the public of the original copy or the reproduced copies of the work through putting into circulation or
their offer for putting into circulation shall be taken to mean distribution.
(2) The distribution shall in particular imply the transfer of the title of ownership of the copy of the work and the
rental of the copy of the work as well as the importation into the country of the copy of the work with the purpose of
putting it into circulation. The possession of an infringing copy of a work for commercial purposes shall also be
regarded as an infringement of the right of distribution, if the person concerned knows, or has reasonable grounds to
know, that the copy is the result of infringement.
(3) In the case of cinematographic creations, works included in sound recordings and software, the lending to the
public of individual copies of the work shall likewise be covered by the right of distribution.

Through its signing of the Berne Convention and the Universal Copyright Convention, as well as membership in international bodies such as the World Trade Organization (WTO), Japan enjoys a mutual copyright protection relationship with almost every country on the planet. Under the umbrella of these agreements, JASRAC has reciprocal representation agreements with 117 copyright societies covering 88 countries and 4 territories (H.K., Taiwan, French New Caledonia, Macau) around the world.

Hungary ARTISJUS P M

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"great and irreparable injury that cannot fully be compensated or measured in money"

I can hear NicoNico and NTV prepping their legal defenses in lieu of this filing given their competitive legal options also contribute to this asinine statement.

What's the point in offering legal streaming if the money will never see the light of day in Japan but instead fill the bank accounts of lawyers.

This is all just so stupid.

Since they don't have the streaming right in my counrty, a Hungarian court couldn't care less about their claims. There are no Hungarian parties that would gain anything from such lawsuit, nobody would pay fat forints for the court under the table, so they also wouldn't give a flying **** about the whole ordeal. And hi again, different copyright laws! And you too, bootleg country!

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Hungary ARTISJUS P M
P and M mean performing and mechanical rights societies. It appears that Hungary is a cosigner on the one of those Conventions...

First, watch the language. This is an official warning.