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SalarymanJoe
 Posts: 468 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA |
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To everyone chiming in with "DAICON's not so rare":
I don't think Justin was necessarily implying the rareness of the video itself - he even mentioned that if you do some searching, you can find it on video hosting sites - but I think he was talking about the actual physical media. You can thankfully find the video posted on the 'net somewhere, but actually finding the LD is going to take a lot of effort, and not to mention cash once you actually find it. |
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Mike Toole
 SubscriberANN Columnist  Posts: 105 Location: THE GOOD OLE U-S-A |
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AFAIK, the only version of the Lupin the 8th pilot is a finished episode with music and effects, but no voices. Would be an interesting fan-dub project. I've seen clips online, but never the episode in its entirety. There are other rarities. TMS produced an English-language pilot for Space Adventure Cobra that features the same character designs as the Japanese episode 1, but a dramatically different story. The pilot was great, funny and dubbed well (featuring Michael Bell as Cobra). This episode is on the new-ish Cobra box set-- wish I could get it separately, that dang thing is too expensive! Once again, a fine article and a fitting tribute to Steve. I met him at my first convention (AnimEast 95) and was impressed with his knowledge and enthusiasm. Things truly were different then, but I'm perfectly happy to buy great anime at the store and mingle with thousands of fans at huge, huge conventions. I still love finding obscurities (60s theatrical anime is just about my favorite stuff, at this point) but am happy to get goodies like Galaxy Angel and Mushishi at Best Buy as well. |
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jvowles
Otakon Representative
 Posts: 219 Location: Maryland |
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Every single year, Otakon shows "Otaku No Video" (usually at the start and/or close of the con) -- because it remains the founding vision of the con. For at least a little while, the Otaku Paradise exists, here in Baltimore.
And Steve, bless him, was THE fan guest that mattered in those early days, before his illness pulled him away. This "buried treasure" of Otaku No Video reveals a lot -- and it's not always pretty. But as opposed to being the depressing piece someone discussed earlier in this thread, I find it a much more level-headed account than that. It says that you CAN live your dreams, but the road to doing so has a lot o speed bumps. Growing up changes you, life shifts your priorities, friendships evolve or disintegrate over time. If you obsess too much over your toys and collectibles, and hide from the world, you run the risk of becoming a pathetic basement-dwelling social introvert. In that regard, it is a cautionary tale. Obsession and utter devotion to a singular goal means sacrifice. But the overwhelming message I took from it is one that I hold dear: achieving your dreams is possible, even though it may take your whole life. Ultimately you must decide *how* to pursue your dream, and what you're willing to sacrifice for it. You can be an otaku without being antisocial, or creepy....so watch out for the signs. I've been lucky in my life to have met one of Gainax's big wigs on a few occasions, and I've also been lucky enough to watch a room full of anime industry leaders, most of them in their 50s or 60s, totally geek out and sing along with the Yamato theme.... |
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Roy9076
 Posts: 286 Location: California |
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A very touching and nice segment and fits fondly into Otaku no Video. I saw Otaku no Video quite a few times and I personally love the ending. All of a sudden... OTAKULAND! xP I found it hilarious! However most of my otaku friends do believe in it and I just simply join in because of the bandwagon.
Steve, otakus everywhere will remember you... or at least a new otaku video comes out! xD I kid! I kid! |
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rinmackie
 Posts: 1040 Location: in a van! down by the river! |
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As someone who got into anime in the late 90's, I can relate. Con-going has lost it's luster for me in the past few years. It's all about hooking up and partying nowadays. But that what happens when something gains in popularity, not that I'm complaining too much. It's nice to be able to obtain anime and manga more easily but I hate the cynical attitude that's crept into modern fandom.
It's not just anime, though. My husband's a gamer, what the kids call "old school". His first console was an Atari 2600 and he remembers when video games were considered nerdy. Kids at school would laugh at him for reading video game magazines on the bus. But he can't stand the new fandom which is obsessed with being hip and cool. |
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JackBassV
 Posts: 241 Location: Coventry, England |
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I've been into Anime since the early 80's (and I do mean the 1980's^^
There are two things I don't miss: The quality of the animation and the quality of the translation. With the exception of films such as Akira, most animation up to the 1990's was pretty poor, especially if it was destined for TV. Just look at Sailor Moon or Goldfish Warning for examples of Anime from the early 1990's and compare with some of the latest ones like Yes! Pretty Cure Five (2007) or Air and Kanon (2006). AS for the translation, that is much more subtle. Watch Patlabor 1 and watch for the additional dialogue added for the American market (The copy I have uses Dub-titles<_< God how I hate them.) Fortunately, the translations are more accurate now, or at least more in keeping with the originals. So would I like to return to the old days? Not a chance! I try not to look at things through rose tinted glasses (mainly because I hate pink^_^). Some of the best series were created in the 90's, but there's a lot of good stuff out now. But nothing that's gonna kick Evangelion off the top spot^_^; Well maybe Maria-sama Ga Miteru will (Okay, so I love Marimite - Long live Yumi^__^) JBV^_^ |
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ichido reichan
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I have to disagree with you on that one, Maria sama ga miteiru was a boring show, devoid of any interest, evangelion draws its roots on the giant robo shows about the earth being attacked by giant misterious aliens and sometimes is a blatant ripoff of Gunbuster, which, it was Gainax first "big hit" in japan, I adore the 1987-1989 Otaku generation, EVA was good until the author started tapping the topics of religion and philosophy of "Since humans couldn't see god, they clonated it" and "Is it the real you, or is the you that you want the others to see?" and stuff like that, and the ending while had cool shots, it had no closure whatsoever.
The current anime fans drool with man-man love, emo themes, goth and sexyness on the new anime shows, naruto is the current dragonball and without internet or AVI files, half of the otakus wouldnt have anything tangible to put on the shelf besides toys. When I started, I was watching everything, regardless of what it was, and I propose myself to watch all the anime shows on earth or make the serious attempt to do so... With the actual generic crap around... I gave up that dream long time ago... |
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nicomorr
 Posts: 127 Location: London, UK. |
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I just came from the Editorial: An Open Letter to the Industry animenewsnetwork.com/editorial/2007-11-25 forums where I plowed through 41 pages of posts & then constructed a lengthy post that ended on a plea for the longterm view & Education as one main answer.
I'm 64, I started watching anime early 90s. I also went through a period of intense ecstatic discovery (and unquestioning viewing) which has led to my current specialised taste & inquiries into the roots & branches of the portions of anime that interest me (classic anime, seiyuu, studio & animator history, cultural differences). So to keep this short & to dreadfully parody "Young nerds do, older nerds teach" or at least that's how I think the freshness & sense of wonder can be maintained. It's a generation thang - and thanks again to JSevakis. I wish ANN would use outside expert nerds to add to his efforts in educating the otaku of tomorrow for when Bleach Naruto & FMA no longer suffice. What about Route 20 BTW? Just for extra nerd points? Nico M |
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mbanu
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Today is the 10th anniversary of Steve Pearl's death; maybe a good time for a re-watch of Otaku no Video.
 RIP, Steve!
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