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REVIEW: Appleseed: Ex Machina

Pixar films are generally about showing off more than about pushing the limits of the medium.

No, they just don't see any technical merits in DW titles. The only stuff they got hard for was from Nick Park.

Sure it applies, because it's like every other Disney musical, but in CG.

I don't mind American companies getting involved, as long as they're willing to do something different. That hasn't been the case for a while, though.

AC was able to bring a video game into a realistic setting without having to dumb down the special effects or cut out important parts of the story. Appleseed actually incorporated CG mech into the story, instead of just in the background like that Gundam special.
While I wouldn't call that new or innovative, either, it was definitely a step in a new direction for FX.

Yooo! Why is there so much anime hate radiating from an anime thread at an anime news site? I guess it's now a given that since Spirited Away, no anime movie need ever think of being worthy for nomination again then, yeah? It's the vibe I'm getting here.

Opinion, nothing to validate it.

Apparently you can read minds though, or you can't and just demonstrate your own ability to prove your statements without any real information.

Yeah, because it was such a musical and was so similar to The Lion King and Bambi and The Little Mermaid. My god! How could I not see it before?! ...

You really think anime doesn't have its fair share or cliches and redundant plot devices? Are you really that blinded by your ridiculous obsessions and bias? People enjoy them, heck, I enjoy them.

I would disagree. AC didn't bring anything in to a realistic setting and frankly I'd say Beowulf and even The Incredibles may have done a better job of that. AC did a wonderful job of bringing a video game in to a Barbie doll setting while completely butchering the story and quality of the source at the same time.

Appleseed did manage to bring mechs in, sure, but I wouldn't call that even slightly innovative or even a new direction. It's little different than Last Exile bringing giant flying battleships into the story.

If that's all you have to say then don't bother quoting that section and replying because frankly I'm tired of you spamming threads with your repetitive responses that revolve around you and your own little universe in which you are apparently the center. You are also not exempt to the rule regarding one-liners and if those one-liners are simply you saying how something sucks in your eyes with nothing to back that then that is also a violation.

Apparently, Keonyn thinks anything which is on-topic is acceptable as long as I don't post it.

The fact that people can't tell the difference between Pixar movies validates it.

I don't know anyone who was excited for Shark Tale as much as they were for the Wallace and Gromit movie. Hell, it did better than Iron Giant, and Bird is considered the best of the Pixar directors.

Bambi's not a musical. But Pixar films are like Disney musicals in that
they both try to go for the same sentimental tripe aesthetic without actually being fun.

Yes, but anime is willing to change with the times.

The landscapes and buildings in AC have far more originality and detail than the generic locations you see in Beowulf and The Incredibles. But hey, the latter two are in CG, so they're brilliant. Also, the original FF7 was a rush-job, so being able to finish it the way it should've been finished served to enhance the story.

Perhaps, but Last Exile's another Laputa wannabe, while Appleseed bothered actually tackling near future themes.

Isn't there a rule against threatening people on here, too? Or are your opinions the only ones which are valid?

Have I edited or touched your posts so far?

I've never met a soul who can't tell the difference.

Who cares about Shark Tale? We're talking about Shrek.

Beowulf used accurate depictions of nordic architecture. What'd you want them to do?

The Incredibles primarily took place in a rendition of the real world and the components of Syndromes layer were intentional parodies of 50's comics as that was the theme.

Now if that's how they wanted to finish FF7; by backtracking the story and then essentially repeating it all over again

while making each character you came to know in the story completely useless aside from fanservice cameos

with the only deep and meaningful part of the story being that someone lost their phone then I'm glad they rushed FF7 because the game ended so much better.

Wow, you're really grasping hard now. Another baseless attack. What'd I tell you about unsupported one-liners?

You may think your post count gives you some kind of immunity to that but you're incorrect, you are expected to add to the discussion the same as everyone else. Simply saying, "I don't like that so it sucks" or "Everyone else hates it" doesn't do that,

If you haven't, someone else has. I've frequently complained about it in the past, too.

So then how does A Bug's Life differ from Cars, Toy Story and Ratatouille? Other than different types of talking animate and inanimate objects, of course.

Shrek's pretty much of that same mold, too. I mean, how lame is it for an animation studio to swipe a song used to sell Mountain Dew for a theme song? The reason people like Nick Park so much is because he does real animated films, not overpriced knock-offs like Shrek.

It would've been nice if they actually focused more on the village life, for one. It's like the only thing around that part of the world was the beer hall and castle. It probably would've helped if they had cut out that sea monster sequence, because it added nothing to the story.

So it's a style which has been done before, thus proving my point that they're not really pushing the medium in a new direction. Your turn.

The story backtracks in the game, too. And it relies on repetition in the form of dream sequences. Why is it bad when the movie revisits old territory, considering the game is about characters who have unfinished business?

The supporting characters had small parts in the game, too. I mean, who really remembers what Yuffie had to do with the story?

Unsupported one-liners? Read the encyclopedia summaries for both titles and tell me which one's more derivative.

I never made those comments. My argument is that what's popular here still can't compete with Japanese animation, because it doesn't try to do anything which acknowledges your intelligence and your appreciation for the art of animation in general. When people are more excited at the upcoming Batman anime than a live-action Avatar, you know I'm right.

Okay ... not really relevant though. No one disputed whether there was any respect between overseas and US studios. In fact I would venture to say that most the US vs. Japan crap is more something generated by bias fans than anyone in the industry. There's been a well known mutual respect between Pixar and Ghibli for years.

Well, I bought the Blueray version this past weekend. It is simply amazing in 1080p. Truly stunning. I decided to watch the 04 Appleseed movie again right before for a refresher. There is quite a difference in visual quality, but I seem to be more forgiving than some people seem to be.

I will agree that the story for Ex-Machina was better, however I feel that there was a bit more action in the first. I gotta have my gunplay fix!

I do have one complaint about the story though regarding Hitomi. spoiler[The last time we see her, she's being arrested. We never see her again and she is not referenced at all in the end. I'm sure that due to the circumstances, she was probably released, but I feel they should have had at least a small scene depicting that.]