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REVIEW: Kanon DVD 1

Restricting that first episode to US only is so pointless. Just what are they trying to protect?

The show sucks.

Not that I have any problems with cutesy anime about cutesy girls. That's why we have h-anime.

But the "uguu~" and the "auuu~," the "moe sound effects..." Japanese vocal sound effects during an English dub.

They just had to introduce some secondary male lead who's a pathetic loser. (And he's voiced by Greg Ayres. DUDE.)

I'm making this official: Moe anime is a waste of my time and money;

Shows like that should stay in Japan where they belong.

Mohawk52 wrote:

Restricting that first episode to US only is so pointless. Just what are they trying to protect?

ADV licensed the series for release in North America. They'd be violating their contract with the creators if they released it to the world.

They also know people import as well, and a unit sold is a unit sold. Now if they plan on releasing it in the UK they could have killed two birds so to speak, because so far they don't do these first ep look sees here yet, and it would keep the impatiens away from the usual illegal sources, but they obviously aren't bothered. Justin who?

Mohawk52 wrote:

They also know people import as well, and a unit sold is a unit sold. Now if they plan on releasing it in the UK they could have killed two birds so to speak, because so far they don't do these first ep look sees here yet, and it would keep the impatiens away from the usual illegal sources, but they obviously aren't bothered. Justin who?

Sure, they know that, but that doesn't change their contract status. If they could ignore that then they'd be selling downloads of their series online already. (I've heard Matt Greenfield, ADV's exec, talk about this issue enough times at 'cons, and he's made it clear that it isn't ADV's lack of interest in doing so, or any lack of technical capability, that's preventing them from trying it.)

The show sucks.

Not that I have any problems with cutesy anime about cutesy girls. That's why we have h-anime. But the "uguu~" and the "auuu~," the "moe sound effects..." Japanese vocal sound effects during an English dub.

They just had to introduce some secondary male lead who's a pathetic loser. (And he's voiced by Greg Ayers. DUDE.)

I'm making this official: Moe anime is a waste of time and money; shows like that should stay in Japan where they belong.

It's only one bloody episode, not the entire bloody series. If Matt knows he's licensing it for the UK, he could have easily got permission for the UK to view at least the first episode as well, or are the the Japanese that anal retentive?

Leebo wrote:

Don't you think it's a bit wasteful to direct negative energy at something that doesn't affect you at all? No one's making you watch it. On top of that, you wouldn't have to watch the English dub if you didn't want to. And the "pathetic secondary character" appears in only a handful of episodes. How exactly would you benefit from keeping something other people like out of their hands?

I have an opinion.

I'm not forced to watch it. I just happened by to see it. And I'm giving out my opinion accordingly.

"If you're going to release that, then you'd better release something different along with it." That didn't happen.

Welcome home.

Crisu wrote:

I agree with Levon_r that the music grade of C was a little harsh. As who_is_friend mentioned, Kanon used the game's original soundtrack for all the music in the anime, so it really feels as if you're watching the game played for you. Perhaps because of that, the tracks might sound dated or slightly lackluster (given today's music standards, I guess), but fans of the original game really love it. And I think it grows on you, too. After all, if it worked for the game, it should work for the anime, too.

I strongly disagree. Granted, I'm basing these next comments on just a couple of visual novels and a handful of dating sims, but in my experience game/visual novel background music is just that: background filler for those players who like to have something playing in the background. (Fortunately any decent game has the option to turn that off for those of us who find it a distraction.) Music for an anime title needs to be much more dedicated towards setting mood and supporting and uplifting the content. That's why the series trying to make do with just the game music doesn't work here. Except in one or two places, the music doesn't do anything to enhance the series in the first volume. If it does get better later on, well, I'm not judging on later volumes at this point.

Additionally, you make it sound like anime music is a "higher" medium of expression than video game music. Music is music. Chopin would still have been an excellent composer even if he had lived 50 years later and written his music for silent films instead of for concert halls. There is plenty of generic, bland, and generally awful anime music to go around (like the score for Chrono Crusade). Some composers have worked in both video games and anime, as well. Hitoshi Sakimoto is primarily a video game composer, but he did the score for GONZO's recent series Romeo X Juliet. Yuki Kajiura is primarily an anime composer, but she has done 3 video game scores: the game adaptation of Blood: The Last Vampire and the second and third Xenosaga games.

Xenofan 29A wrote:

Additionally, you make it sound like anime music is a "higher" medium of expression than video game music. Music is music. Chopin would still have been an excellent composer even if he had lived 50 years later and written his music for silent films instead of for concert halls. There is plenty of generic, bland, and generally awful anime music to go around (like the score for Chrono Crusade). Some composers have worked in both video games and anime, as well. Hitoshi Sakimoto is primarily a video game composer, but he did the score for GONZO's recent series Romeo X Juliet. Yuki Kajiura is primarily an anime composer, but she has done 3 video game scores: the game adaptation of Blood: The Last Vampire and the second and third Xenosaga games.

You're reading too much into my comments there. I am merely asserting that game music usually serves a different purpose than anime music, and trying to switch one into the other often (usually?)
doesn't work well.

And trust me, I've heard plenty enough bad anime soundtracks in my day.

The music score of "C" is getting blown out of proportion. "C" means "average", unless stated otherwise. It doesn't mean "bad". But it's not special. It's okay for what it's trying to do... Am I in the minority who is okay with that score?

The music score of "C" is getting blown out of proportion. "C" means "average", unless stated otherwise. It doesn't mean "bad". But it's not special. It's okay for what it's trying to do... Am I in the minority who is okay with that score?

Key wrote:

Mohawk52 wrote: They also know people import as well, and a unit sold is a unit sold. Now if they plan on releasing it in the UK they could have killed two birds so to speak, because so far they don't do these first ep look sees here yet, and it would keep the impatiens away from the usual illegal sources, but they obviously aren't bothered. Justin who? Sure, they know that, but that doesn't change their contract status. If they could ignore that then they'd be selling downloads of their series online already. (I've heard Matt Greenfield, ADV's exec, talk about this issue enough times at 'cons, and he's made it clear that it isn't ADV's lack of interest in doing so, or any lack of technical capability, that's preventing them from trying it.)

It's only one bloody episode, not the entire bloody series. If Matt knows he's licensing it for the UK, he could have easily got permission for the UK to view at least the first episode as well, or are the the Japanese that anal retentive?