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xstylus
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I'd like to read up on that. Source? |
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Dargonxtc
Posts: 4463 Location: Nc5xd7+ スターダストの海洋 |
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This one describes a KLM flight that flies through a volcano, then towards the bottom tells of the BA flight in Malaysia. |
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Viga_of_stars
Posts: 1240 Location: Washington D.C. in the Anime Atelier |
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Alright. It's beginning it over. Let's see how the middle will turn out.
I say beginning because ADV is still working on some stuff. The statement the they made FINALLY has done some damage control and assured....I WILL HAVE MY GURREN!! |
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Calculusman
Posts: 309 Location: Virginia |
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This is getting off-topic, but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_9 |
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firedragon54738
Posts: 3113 Location: wisconsin |
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i hope that i can still get the last dvd of ah! my goddess and the special
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Arcwave
Posts: 246 Location: Seattle |
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ADV is working through a few short-term challenges
Ugh! This sounds a lot like what Geneon said at first... before they got greased! Common ADV! You can pull through! |
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blodz
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good! I was starting to panic I at least I hope whatever issues they have work out in the end. coz it would be horrible if they end up like geneon.
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Porcupine
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Arcwave, my thoughts exactly.
This new response does not increase my faith in ADVision one bit. What they just said was only the absolute minimal response I could have imagined. If anything it lessens my faith that they will pull through even moreso. In any case, I'm not interested in arguing whether this statement is reassuring or disheartening. And I'm not interested in arguing whether or not ADVision is going to die or not. No one knows for sure. But at the moment I'd certainly place my bets on them dying. And I'm still not going to buy any of their products such as Gurren-Lagann until they are completed first, even if they do temporarily pull through. And as dargon said in the earlier thread, I have little sympathy for a company that is so stupid that they licensed a ton of new titles when they were having problems...like a kid in a candy store with no money. Geneon did the exact same thing. A graceful exit from the industry would have earned ADVision my sympathy. But an ungraceful exit only pisses me off. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
Posts: 7912 Location: Anime News Network Technodrome |
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Couldn't you pretty much just copy/paste your responses from the old Geneon threads at this point? You seem like you have a very particular and unchanging rhetoric on these matters. "This company doesn't deserve my respect" "I'll never buy anime from this company again if they don't do X Y and Z in exactly that order" etcetera. |
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Porcupine
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You have a good point. I'm just saying the same things over and over. I'll try to post less in these threads, it's unecessary.
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HitokiriShadow
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Well, its nice to hear something. I'm still worried and this doesn't necessarily mean everything is going to be okay, but at least now we have an idea of what the problem is.
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tidusora
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I'm awfully scared. I think that there's a possibility that ADV could be crumbling down, and no one wants that happening. I was dissapointed when Geneon fell apart, let's just pray that it doesn't happen to ADV Films. It would make sense, however, that they took down their newer titles. I thought that they would be expensive titles considering their high value in Japan. Maybe they need to take it one step at a time, if this is actually the trouble.
The anime industry in America is crumbling. |
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Calculusman
Posts: 309 Location: Virginia |
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why do you and everyone else assume that this has to deal with money and ADV losing it? The ICv2 article just says "ADV has suspended certain elements of its former alliance with ARM Corporation, which financed the acquisition of these titles" but nothing about this being a financial matter in the sense that ADV is bleeding cash - only that they're having issues with another company which helps finance licensing. In fact, everything seems to point towards this being a licensing matter and not a monetary one (though of course we can't know for certain). The note saying they hope to start distributing the titles again soon just lead credence to the idea that this is a licensing issue in my opinion. Nothing they're doing makes sense if it's a money issue. If they were going out of business, why only pull new series? If they're cutting costs, why pull new, potentially good selling series? I'm getting tired of these posts which almost seem to eagerly await ADV's doom or otherwise announce them dead without any reason to do so. |
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Mindless Watcher
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The statement contains nothing substantial at all, except for the subtext which says "We are in deep sh*t."
How should I imagine a licensing matter which is not at the same time a monetary one? Could someone please explain that for me? A scenario which I can understand is, in very simple terms: ADV sends check to Japan, check bounces, Japanese come and take licenses away. But if ADV fulfills their part of the contracts, how can they get into license trouble? |
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samuelp
Industry Insider
Posts: 2231 Location: San Antonio, USA |
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That's easy: ADV never really owned the licenses, ARM did, and when ARM (an "arm" of Sojitz) and ADV got into some argument, ADV suddenly had "licensing" issues. What that argument was about, money, control, profit sharing, etc... we don't (and probably never will) know, but that's what's being negotiated, whatever it is. |
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