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NEWS: ADV Comments on Relisted Titles, New Release Schedule

Conan-san wrote:

No Gurren Lagann? NO SAFETY!! As far as I'm concerned, untill I have GL #1 in my hands, ADV's still goin' to hell in a handbasket. I also don't like what he's implying with the news blackout. because I think he just said the "weeaboo" word of business, "Red tape"

Just volume 1? And then what? They go under and you're stuck with GL Volume 1. This is why I only buy complete sets/thinpacks. You get the entire show and for cheaper.

I have a hard time believing that their reputation hasn't been affected by all this. I'd say fan distrust created by this utter silence is what will ultimately kill ADV in the long run. I'll give them nine months.

grgspunk wrote:

I have a hard time believing that their reputation hasn't been affected by all this. I'd say fan distrust created by this utter silence is what will ultimately kill ADV in the long run. I'll give them nine months.

Personally I was already fairly appeased, press releases or not, when ADVision (assumedly) started up business again with less than a month of being questionably inactive. The speed of their resurrection was enough to satisfy me, as I think actions speak louder than words.

However I generally concur with what you ranted and do think that more open press releases at an earlier date would have been helpful.

I also totally agree with your final statement. Though they seem like they are functioning again, ADVision is not out of the woods yet. This incident could still be the beginning of the end for them, quite possibly with the same timetable you predict. ADVision was supposedly in financial trouble since at least half a year ago when I first started hearing rumors, so I doubt they are suddenly financially healthy again just because they managed find a way to continue releasing titles. Even a small amount of fan distrust and lost sales following recent events has the possibility of eventually finishing them off.

Porcipine and grgspunk, please do me a favor and leave ADV alone. You don't live in Houston, you've never met the V.A.s, you've never met the founders. So get off ADVs back! Stop trying to curse a company and trying to make bias.

The anime market is not a competitive medium! it's rather a united non-competitive medium where everyone HAS one goal: Distrubute Japanese animation for people that love them.

Everybody buys from everyone, it's all about quality not who's better. I like every U.S. distributor of anime. ADV,Bandai,CPM,Rightstuff,Funimation all of them!!!!!! Well of course people hate 4kids! they ruin anime.

grgspunk wrote:

You know, they would have at least alleviated some of the uncertainty if they'd just kept giving us press releases or announcements saying something along the lines of:

You mean something like this ?

Oh, come on. Do you really think "fan distrust" has been built up that much and is going to hurt them that bad? Is fandom so fragile in this day and age of Internet-based immediate gratification that a delay of 2-4 weeks for several titles is going to drive people away? Fans being more reluctant to buy a series until it's all out I can maybe understand, as I know people are still smarting from the Geneon thing, but if someone is entirely refusing to buy from ADV over this then I have to wonder if that person wasn't looking for an excuse not to buy anyway.

Porcipine and grgspunk, please do me a favor and leave ADV alone.

tempest wrote:

grgspunk wrote: You know, they would have at least alleviated some of the uncertainty if they'd just kept giving us press releases or announcements saying something along the lines of: You mean something like this ?

Yeah, something along the lines of that. but that article dates back to January 30th: The beginning of the month-long silence. It would've been nice if something was said in the middle of February instead of the end of it.

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Oh, come on. Do you really think "fan distrust" has been built up that much and is going to hurt them that bad? Is fandom so fragile in this day and age of Internet-based immediate gratification that a delay of 2-4 weeks for several titles is going to drive people away? Fans being more reluctant to buy a series until it's all out I can maybe understand, as I know people are still smarting from the Geneon thing, but if someone is entirely refusing to buy from ADV over this then I have to wonder if that person wasn't looking for an excuse not to buy anyway.

Uhh... That "excuse not to buy anyway" comment seemed like a subtle accusation pointed towards me claiming that I'm an irresponsible fansub downloader. That was uncalled for. I'm not avoiding ADV, as I've still got titles (like Kanon volumes 2 and 3) that I'd like to buy from them but am unable to because of this delay. In fact, I've decided to buy the Air TV series for now to hold out until the Kanon DVDs arrive. I'm merely pissed off at their lack of any statements made and I believe that is going to be detrimental to them in the long run. I wouldn't make such a big deal out of it if I had every intention of avoiding them. I wouldn't be suprised if some average guy accused me, but I expected better from an ANN rep. Maybe I deserved it for implementing my own brand of sensationalism by using bold and caps-locked letters.

Anyways, the fandom has been pretty fragile because there's an air of pessimism that's been hanging around for months, which was obviously started by Geneon's demise. It's grown worse with events like Newtype/ADvocates being ditched, as well as Viz cancelling several titles halfway through. So of course there are guys that immediately assume the worst when things like this happen. Worse yet, I'll bet some of those people don't check sites like these very often and still believe that ADV hasn't said a word.

And yes, a two to four week coma is a big deal from a business prespective, considering the opportunity costs associated with it. There could have been a better chance of securing preorders/orders if they said/released something.

By saying the word "distrust" I'm referring to the lack of confidence that a company will complete a series. And yes, by saying that fan distrust will kill them, I'm mainly referring to the people who have decided to be smart after the whole Geneon affair. Why? If people become cautious en-masse and start holding out on buying titles until they're fully released, then how are they going to get immediate sales? Sure, they might get the money sometime later, but they do have expenses they have to immediately settle. Besides, like you said, fan distrust can motivate some to resort to fansubs altogether, which can make things worse.

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Porcipine and grgspunk, please do me a favor and leave ADV alone.

Sorry, but a false alarm followed by absolute withholding of a sitrep is not a joke. I nearly had a heart attack after the ICv2 article was released and I really wanted to see signs of ADV actually staying alive so I could keep buying from them. And yes, my criticisms were also business-related. I don't have any prior grudges against their company or their employees (I don't personally know them myself). However, I would recommend that they fire their PR department for allowing the ICv2 article to be leaked: This probably posed some sort of threat to their negotiations.

I guess it comes from being new here, but the pessimism among the community on this board is just sickening.