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dormcat
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:12 am Reply with quote
Bika-chan wrote:
What's that other anime next to PPGZ?

Kilala Princess. Not an anime, but still a Japanese version of American cartoons.

Tip: the filename is A8385-3.jpg, meaning it's from entry #8385.
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tygerchickchibi



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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:34 am Reply with quote
1stAgent wrote:

And dormcat beat me to the PPGZ pic. That series single-handedly put to rest the "Japanese do everything better" mentality.


Yes, Even though the characters were cute, everything about the series had crumbled into sugary sweetness without the regular SMASH BAMZOW that the original series had placed in.

Nonetheless, I hadn't watched all the episodes, the fight scenes made me want to gag...I think I watched only 5 episodes and stopped.
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Meccanica



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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:57 am Reply with quote
Viga_of_stars wrote:
I predict one of the answer to next week answerfans will be Naruto. Laughing


I predict about 16 million more 'Evangelion' answers.

I also predict that tomorrow you will breathe oxygen using your lungs Anime hyper
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KnightSoul



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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:17 am Reply with quote
The most overrated anime for me would be Bleach. It just feels like they took parts from Dragonball Z, Ruroni Kenshin and other like-scenario anime, smooshed them together and called it good. It's nothing I haven't seen before.

Oddly enough, everyone I know who is absolutely nuts about Bleach has never Kenshin and only the Buu Saga of DBZ.
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Wyvern



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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:26 am Reply with quote
The Fox Kids Escaflowne dub is almost as bad as Cardcaptors, in that it tries to rewrite the story so a supporting male character is the hero. Van becomes the lead in this version, and any sort of romance between him and Hitomi is stripped out (nice trick when that's one of the major cruxes of the entire plot.)

Oh, and the entire first episode is removed because it didn't have enough action. It later turned out that had the show not been cancelled after a few weeks, they would have removed and/or combined more episodes in order to cut out most of the plot in favor of more action sequences, bringing the total ep count to about 20.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:36 am Reply with quote
Hrm. Maybe I'm the odd one out here...

I think the dub of Pokemon is great, at least for the first and second series'. They took a kids show designed to sell merchandise and turned it into... a kid's show designed to sell merchandise with a brilliant team rocket motto. James is my hero.
O'course, the team rocket motto has lost it's pizazz in the later series'...

Sure, they replaced the opening with a westernised version, but... well, not to put too fine a point on it, but... have you heard the original opener? They did the series a favour by cutting it out, at least for the first couple of series'...
The dub theme for the later series', however, is a crime (They turned the 'Ultimate Rap' dial up)...

I suppose that they do persist in calling riceballs 'donuts' and stripping all cutural references, but that's hardly crime of the century in a show which... didn't really have any cultural references of consequence. At the end of the day, this is a shallow, episodic kid's show with zero character development designed to sell merchandise (which is fine, for what it is) - dubbing it to be friendlier to kids over here is hardly destroying some great work of art.

Nah, the dubs which cheese me off are ones where the demographic is (attempted to be) changed; like Cardcaptors.


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:37 am Reply with quote
This week's Answerfan replies proved to be as laughable as I predicted last week. And I can only imagine the sad iconoclastic attitudes those submitting for next week's will have. I hope Zac is bracing himself for a slew of rants against Evangelion, Fullmetal Alchemist, Death Note, Haruhi, Gurren Lagann, and perhaps even Cowboy Bebop. After all, if something is extremely popular, it must be overrated garbage, am I right?

I expect at least one Tang joke, the use of the term "emo" (the most intellectually devoid charge assigned to any person or work within the past decade), a declaration of how the manga version of whatever title was better, and some suggestion that "if the fans of [X] weren't so annoying, I'd like it more".

That being said, I would likely nominate one of the barrage of popular moe trashfests, like Clannad or Kanon. Or Rumbling Hearts, which is a 2D melodrama based on a porn game. It's as though nobody even cares about plot or originality any longer.

On the subject of 4Kids, I can understand the anger over how drastically they cut and edit certain programs, but let's face it - One Piece was basically the same show even in its horrible treatment. It's just generic shonen fare for children, which is how it was treated. As for Pokemon, they did rather a good job adapting it for Western audiences, despite a few stumbles here and there. In fact, there are people now rallying to get the old voice actors back, now that 4Kids no longer handles the dub. Ideally, yes, a company should edit anything, but in order to meet the acceptable standards for the target demographic, changes were made. Thus the missing scenes of Kojiro/James' fake breasts and the Game Warden's itchy trigger finger (oddly the only time I've ever seen guns in a show with monsters that can demolish entire cities by turning a corner).
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MelloHatesNear



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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:49 am Reply with quote
penguintruth wrote:
This week's Answerfan replies proved to be as laughable as I predicted last week. And I can only imagine the sad iconoclastic attitudes those submitting for next week's will have. I hope Zac is bracing himself for a slew of rants against Evangelion, Fullmetal Alchemist, Death Note, Haruhi, Gurren Lagann, and perhaps even Cowboy Bebop. After all, if something is extremely popular, it must be overrated garbage, am I right?

I expect at least one Tang joke, the use of the term "emo" (the most intellectually devoid charge assigned to any person or work within the past decade), a declaration of how the manga version of whatever title was better, and some suggestion that "if the fans of [X] weren't so annoying, I'd like it more".

That being said, I would likely nominate one of the barrage of popular moe trashfests, like Clannad or Kanon. Or Rumbling Hearts, which is a 2D melodrama based on a porn game. It's as though nobody even cares about plot or originality any longer.

On the subject of 4Kids, I can understand the anger over how drastically they cut and edit certain programs, but let's face it - One Piece was basically the same show even in its horrible treatment. It's just generic shonen fare for children, which is how it was treated. As for Pokemon, they did rather a good job adapting it for Western audiences, despite a few stumbles here and there. In fact, there are people now rallying to get the old voice actors back, now that 4Kids no longer handles the dub. Ideally, yes, a company should edit anything, but in order to meet the acceptable standards for the target demographic, changes were made. Thus the missing scenes of Kojiro/James' fake breasts and the Game Warden's itchy trigger finger (oddly the only time I've ever seen guns in a show with monsters that can demolish entire cities by turning a corner).


Because using big words makes you better than them.

Submit your own if you feel they're "laughable". Otherwise, respect other people's opinions.

Heck, respect their opinions to begin with.
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loka



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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:56 am Reply with quote
it has been shown that the time slot on adult swim has no correlation with popularity. i think case closed failed for the reasons Zac stated.

i hope the upcoming answers to Answerfan arent just the shounen action stuff (bleach, naruto, etc). i think most people agree that they are only really thought highly of in the younger age group (as it was designed to be.)


picture of the rabbit and cat was great.


and yeah, FMA tops my list of overrated.
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penguintruth



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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:58 am Reply with quote
MelloHatesNear wrote:
Because using big words makes you better than them.

Submit your own if you feel they're "laughable". Otherwise, respect other people's opinions.

Heck, respect their opinions to begin with.


First, it helps to quote merely the portion of the post with which you wish to comment/respond to. It takes up less space on the page that way.

And second, opinions are fine, but when they're expressed the same way constantly, it gets a little stale. It comes off as not being geniune, as if those opinions were borrowed because they sounded interesting, witty, or controversial.
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MelloHatesNear



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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:22 am Reply with quote
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First, it helps to quote merely the portion of the post with which you wish to comment/respond to. It takes up less space on the page that way.

And second, opinions are fine, but when they're expressed the same way constantly, it gets a little stale. It comes off as not being geniune, as if those opinions were borrowed because they sounded interesting, witty, or controversial.


First, I'm new to the forums and don't really use any. That's my bad.

Second, you don't know when opinions are genuine or not. So what if a lot of people share the same ones? Would you rather have them make up an obscure one to be an alternative JUST to sound different from everyone else? Whether you deem an opinion "genuine" or not, it's still an opinion and people are entitled to have it, even if it doesn't meet your standards.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:28 am Reply with quote
MelloHatesNear wrote:
Quote:
First, it helps to quote merely the portion of the post with which you wish to comment/respond to. It takes up less space on the page that way.

And second, opinions are fine, but when they're expressed the same way constantly, it gets a little stale. It comes off as not being geniune, as if those opinions were borrowed because they sounded interesting, witty, or controversial.


First, I'm new to the forums and don't really use any. That's my bad.

Second, you don't know when opinions are genuine or not. So what if a lot of people share the same ones? Would you rather have them make up an obscure one to be an alternative JUST to sound different from everyone else? Whether you deem an opinion "genuine" or not, it's still an opinion and people are entitled to have it, even if it doesn't meet your standards.


If your way of expressing your opinion looks exactly the same as everyone else's, you shouldn't bother burdening everyone by sharing it, as if they hadn't ever absorbed that opinion before. If you don't have anything new to say, don't say anything. Otherwise you're just echoing everyone else.

Opinions shouldn't appear to be manafactured.
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MelloHatesNear



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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:32 am Reply with quote
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If your way of expressing your opinion looks exactly the same as everyone else's, you shouldn't bother burdening everyone by sharing it, as if they hadn't ever absorbed that opinion before. If you don't have anything new to say, don't say anything. Otherwise you're just echoing everyone else.

Opinions shouldn't appear to be manafactured.


Ironically, that's your opinion, as well. You're not Grand Judge of the Internet. This is a place for people to express themselves. Sure, I don't agree with a lot of things on here (the trillion Naruto love threads), but it's still their right to say it. Really, going in there to tell them they're redundant is redundant in itself. Let the ninjas have their headbands.
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teh*darkness



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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:52 am Reply with quote
I'm too lazy and cynical to bother explaining why, but in my opinion, Tri-Gun is the most overrated anime in recent memory. Next to Code Geass.

loka wrote:
i think most people agree that they are only really thought highly of in the younger age group (as it was designed to be.)


No, not most people. Just a decent part of the elitist internet fans. In the real world, people like what they like, regardless of a meaningless 'subjective' target audience "in Japan".
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:33 am Reply with quote
Meccanica wrote:
I predict about 16 million more 'Evangelion' answers.


People like to be right after all.
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