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penguintruth



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:13 pm Reply with quote
I always felt like Matsumoto was the Bill Finger to Nishizaki's Bob Kane.

I'm glad the new Yamato is a remake. No more sequels, please. Final was enough, which is why I have no interest in Resurrection. Likewise, though, I wouldn't have cared for Matusmoto's characters coming into the Yamato world, so I'm glad Matsumoto never got that off the ground.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:23 am Reply with quote
I remember Thundersub quite fondly. Never got into Star Blazers/Yamato.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:44 am Reply with quote
penguintruth wrote:
I always felt like Matsumoto was the Bill Finger to Nishizaki's Bob Kane.

I'm glad the new Yamato is a remake. No more sequels, please. Final was enough, which is why I have no interest in Resurrection. Likewise, though, I wouldn't have cared for Matusmoto's characters coming into the Yamato world, so I'm glad Matsumoto never got that off the ground.


I'll agree with the grate relef that Matusmoto was never able to give me a headack by getting Harlock into Yamato. That said I think that it deserves the Reboot/remake.

Also what is wrong with these people we got live action Gantz. No Live action Yamato WTF?

Also loved the Several lose cannon joke
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GATSU



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:59 am Reply with quote
Forget the new Yamato stuff. What's been keeping us from seeing the original series?!
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Bamble



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:05 am Reply with quote
As much as I love Leiji Matsumoto's works, and particularly the many anime productions based on them, I've always considered Yamato legitimately more as Nishizaki's baby than Matsumoto's - it's just more grounded in reality, if only a little, than Matsumoto's distinctly more lyrical and melodramatic works.

Of course that's still not enough to not make me wish someone would subtitle the ill-fated Dai Yamato anime as well, among many other as-of-yet untranslated Matsumto productions, but since no one outside of Japan and Europe cares about his works anymore, I'm not holding my breath! It's also amusing to note just how popular Yamato and Matsumoto were with early American anime fandom, and how that popularity, for the Matsumoto series in particular, pretty much completely eroded away by the 1990s.

In any case, glad to see some (OK, any) positive press on ThunderSub/Blue Noah too. Yeah it's no classic, but it is a very competently made series with a neat story. I'm proud to say I played my part in co-ordinating with a certain Go Nagai alien super robot-themed website in getting the English dub of this back into circulation again, for better or worse! Wink

Odin was what I like to term a magnificent failure. Utterly beautiful to look at, but of course at the end it just... stops. I've always maintained that the movie, while indeed fundamentally flawed, is not quite the unmitigated trainwreck it is constantly made out to be. Still, my view on the film is undoubtedly skewed by it being an early Manga Video release, coupled with my partiality to 80s anime sci-fi with beautiful BGM by the late, and brilliant, Kentaro Haneda - the latter aspects also shared with one of my early anime viewings, Thunderbirds 2086.

Sure it's too long, but anyone serious about checking Odin out would be recommended to track down the unedited version from CPM on the original 2000 DVD rather than the grossly truncated "International Cut", the only version available on the later 2004 DVD, for the full experience.

On that note, I recall an interview with the infamous (well, he seems to be infamous around these parts - how about a column highlighting the "glory days" of CPM?) John O'Donnell, where at one point he defended the re-release of only the cut version of the film. That particular interview is kind of hilarious in hindsight, as it was released literally mere days before CPM pretty much went bust back in May 2006.

With regard Yamato: Resurrection, as far as I know, official English subtitles apparently do exist for that, as it has been exhibited that way at certain film festivals. In their infinite wisdom, the subtitle tracks for both recent Yamato movies have not been included on any of the domestic home video releases as yet in Japan, and because the R1 anime market is in such a healthy position these days, no one wants to pick up some of the few new productions that could successfully be targeted to older anime fans actually ready, willing and able to part with their hard-earned money for some genuine nostalgia-fests on physical media!

As I'm given to understand, Voyager Entertainment started out as one of Nishizaki's satellite companies, but later became a separate entity in its own right - possibly around the time Nishizaki got busted back in 1997? This last point is kind of fuzzy, appropriately enough when dealing with anything Nishizaki!

Voyager have really only been a holding company for Star Blazers and hardsubbed fullscreen video masters of the original Yamato movies for the last 15 or so years - I can't seriously see them picking up any other productions ever again. Love Tim Eldred's never-ending work on the website though!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:03 am Reply with quote
The kids at my preschool did an awesome Yamato musical dance number for their recital; I wish I could get my camera to properly upload files to my computer so I could share it...

Space Battleship Yamato/Star Blazers has always been one of those anime series I deeply regret not seeing, yet I've never quite figure out how. Nobody I know owns it, and Hulu only started streaming it after I got region-blocked by it. I could rent it here, but without subtitles, will I enjoy it enough? I can generally understand about 70-80% of anime dialog, but if there's too much technical language (as SF shows often have) I'm lost.
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Weiss_Yohji



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:20 am Reply with quote
Odin's trippy animation and artwork and hair metal soundtrack are the main reasons why it's a classic. The animators had to have at least been stoned when they made it, because it's the quintessential stoner anime.
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SethMosrite



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:21 pm Reply with quote
WLVI 56?
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Mike Toole
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:44 pm Reply with quote
SethMosrite wrote:
WLVI 56?


Nope, WXNE 25. The show may well have moved to WLVI 56 (which was running Battle of the Planets in 1980), but it was on 25 when I first watched it.
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Penguin_Factory



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:03 pm Reply with quote
There's a Yamato remake happening? By the director of RahXephon??

This pleases me greatly because I've always been curious about Yamato. I was contemplating seeing a fansub of the movie (I'm also surprised no one licensed that, at least for streaming) but an anime remake seems like a better option.
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doc-watson42
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:11 am Reply with quote
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I hope that Engaio and American companies like Voyager Entertainment can get this sorted out, because I'm really itching to go off to outer space once again. How about you?

I'd love to see Voyager sublicense the entire series to (or be bought out by) TRSI/Nozomi Entertainment or AnimEigo, so that it can be remastered and reauthored on Blu-ray.

As for Nishizaki, here are Jonathan Clements' takes, from his The Official Schoolgirl Milky Crisis Blog:

"Yoshinobu Nishizaki 1934-2010" (7 November 2010)

"Grand Theft Anime" (24 February 2011)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:42 pm Reply with quote
I remember watching Odin, and relatively recently. Just can't recall if I watched it on TV (Teleton?) or borrowed someone's DVD. I don't remember much about it, but I do remember the light-sail vessel and something about a mutiny.

An good, in-depth article on Yoshinobu Nishizaki. The man certainly won't be forgotten, not as long as SBY is around. I just hope the movies, et al are able to make to North American shores in the future (one of these days I've got to pick up Star Blazers).
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:15 pm Reply with quote
Bamble wrote:
Sure it's too long, but anyone serious about checking Odin out would be recommended to track down the unedited version from CPM on the original 2000 DVD rather than the grossly truncated "International Cut", the only version available on the later 2004 DVD, for the full experience.

I had the latter on my shelf, but your warning made me check, and yes, I still have the former; it's actually a sublicense to Digital Versatile Disc, Ltd. (the non-porn side of the better known NuTech Digital). Note that the 2000 DVD edition has both the 94 minute version (subbed and dubbed; titled Odin: Photon Space Sailer Starlight, SKU: DVD 153) and the 139 minute version (subbed only; titled Odin: Starlight Mutiny, SKU: USMD 2398).

Thanks! Very Happy
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Zhou-BR



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:47 pm Reply with quote
This column made me track down Odin, which I just finished watching. And you know what? I freaking LOVED it! The animation and mecha designs are breathtakingly gorgeous, and while the characters are underdeveloped and there's a lot of dead air in the first half hour or so, once spoiler[the ship got to the other side of the universe] I was absolutely riveted by the story until the end.

Speaking of the ending, I was perfectly fine with the way it left things off. Whatever Nishizaki planned for spoiler[the characters to find on Odin] if the sequels got made couldn't possibly live up to our imaginations. And good thing this column warned me about Loudness's appearance in the ending credits, or I could have had a life-threatening laughing fit.

Really, I didn't expect to enjoy the movie this much. If it ever comes out on Blu-ray, I'll be all over it.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:29 pm Reply with quote
Zhou-BR wrote:
Really, I didn't expect to enjoy the movie this much. If it ever comes out on Blu-ray, I'll be all over it.

Another satisfied customer I see!
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