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Namia_the_Theif_18
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this was really exciting. it gave me a chance to see how they make all of their work so straight and they also showed us how they make the animation on the shows look like somebody jujst magically made them look soo real; i'd like to see them do something like BLEACH or Eureka Seven. Not that i was disappointed with One Piece.. i would just like to see them do some bankai.
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HeeroTX
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*sigh* ok, so we wanna go by that standard? Here's Usagi-chan photo gallery from Anime Expo 2000: http://www.usagichan.com/AX2000/ (wass gonna use Fansview but the older ones are not cooperating) Applying the liberal standard of "any CLAMP title" vs. "Sailor Moon ONLY and trying to weed out repeats" I got a count of about 28 Sailor Moon cosplayer pics vs. 24 "any CLAMP" (with a VERY liberal standard of what could possibly be CLAMP). Or, if you prefer, I also have the "(as best I can tell) unique Sailor Moon costumes" (46) vs. "any CLAMP costume including repeats, +an obvious Ranma standing by a Sakura I'm calling "Hikaru", +A girl in a blue wig I'm calling "Umi", +2 Doremi cosplayers I'm pretending could be Card Captor Sakura, plus a stuffed dog that's supposed to be "Inuki" held by a Yuzuriha cosplayer (who yes, was also counted)". (38) Lemme know if you can find any CLAMP that I missed in there, I think I even pretended random winged girls are supposed to be from Clover. I know I caught characters from Rayearth, X, Tokyo Babylon and Card Captor Sakura (including a really good Yukito). |
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GATSU
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Top Gun:
They also didn't care about other shows like it in their later years. 
People know what Speed Racer is, but that didn't help it at the box office.
No it's not in the same vein, since DBZ and Pokemon are huge enough to be on most search engine ranks; and they continue to sell merchandise long after their peak periods. Sailor Moon was a fad which got a bit of WOM, but died out when CLAMP came along.
I'd imagine you'd get laughed at for Sailor Moon, too.
It had gotten exposure in a market which normally is not exposed to anime. There's a difference between that and being able to achieve mainstream success and recognition.
Well, before that, most of the American otaku were into the mecha stuff, so it did make a difference. posterior:
But if they still have no clue about anime, then it's not really that influential.
And yet AX had a record-breaking attendance, due to them...
It was popular enough for the subbed dvds to outsell the dubbed dvds in a market not known to be friendly to shojo. Edit: Anyway, Abunai is going to say I'm getting OT, and testor is going to contradict me, so I'll stop here. |
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HeeroTX
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While I don't discount the impact, AX had lots going on that year and I don't think one can say their attendance figures were solely due to CLAMP. (altho, if you want to make that argument I'd like to know how that record was broken the next year by almost 10%)
WTF? not even gonna comment on the statistics? I just finished the ACen '01 numbers and they're about even now if I pretend random outfits are CLAMP related because they're holding CLAMP toys and that the same girl in the same outfit with the same doll in three different pics is three girls. EDIT: Also, for the record, I have cosplayed characters from Tokyo Babylon, X, CLAMP Campus Detectives and numerous other anime titles (like Fushigi Yuugi, Gundam Wing, Naruto, etc.) and NONE of them have gotten the level of reaction as the ONE time I cosplayed as Tuxedo Mask. |
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Top Gun
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I feel like the problem here is that we're judging the series' performance by two entirely different standards. GATSU, you seem to be insinuating that, just because it didn't turn into a merchandising juggernaut and convert everyone who watched it into anime fans, Sailor Moon wasn't a big success over here. While I'll concede those two points (though I have no idea how the series did merchandise-wise), I don't think it's fair to consider only them when defining how much of a success the series was. The show was all but crippled in terms of its long-term success by the hullabaloo over its license; you can't keep selling merchandise and DVDs that don't exist. And I severely doubt that every kid who watched Pokemon or DBZ wound up becoming general anime fans, either. The fact that a plurality of the people who voted in that poll posted earlier (an audience that, as you said, probably consisted almost entirely of hardcore anime fans) selected Sailor Moon as their anime introduction speaks of the influence that it did have. And as Heero noted, it's still very popular among cosplayers. True, it may not be generating the money that CLAMP titles are now, but it did manage to reach a very large audience with significant television airtime, which is more than any of those series can claim.
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Teriyaki Terrier
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Wow times sure have changed. I never really knew Japanese companies now use digital machines now, but I liked seeing what changes have been made in anime companies.
The only question I have is; what ever happened to Dragon Quest: Dai No Daibokuen (Dai's Big Adventure)? Though I did hear this information via Crunchyrolll, they do have the anime in the licensed list. Yet I haven't heard any news about this before. Though I am glad this series did get licensed. Another obvious to others, but news to me is that besides Buried Tresure, Justin also does ANNtv. That I think is impressive, that must be a ton of work though. I haven't seen ANNtv since Mike Tolie reviewed Kanon, so this episode was actually quite interesting. |
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Vuwazy
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I doubt what you're saying here is right.
In terms of single titles in name for influence, then yeah. |
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GATSU
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Teriyaki: I have a feeling the rights to DQ reverted to Toei, and they're simply hoping to shop it around, now that the game finally found an audience here.
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reanimator
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They are not magical. Those guys draw thousands of pictures for 10 to 20 years prior to computer. It's just that they get aid from computer to make production process faster. Speaking of BLEACH, it's just another Shueisha's Shonen Jump formula title. One Piece and Dragon Ball Z are the same formula titles from Shonen Jump. |
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