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Teriyaki Terrier
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:13 pm
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Gundam Junkie wrote: | I'm with Nina I'm afraid. I havn't a clue what a meme is.
It's a sign of getting old when you don't understand what the younger generation is talking about. |
Actually I've never heard a meme either. Trust me, I know the feeling. I remember the days of when the word "cool" was the biggest trend around.
I don't even know if people still use that word though.
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prime_pm
Joined: 06 Feb 2004
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:16 pm
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Memes are basically reminiscent of "fads." You know those little things that people in high school knew all about and thought were "awesome" or "rockin?" And if you weren't up on the clicheness, you would be mocked openly in front of everyone in school and/or stuffed inside a locker? And by the time you got it, you were either a poser or everyone had just moved on after a minute? Imagine a meme as one of these only you're relatively able to retain your anonymity (so long as you're not stupid enough to give your real name).
4chans, on the other hand, are just (d)evolving versions of Finnegans Wake.
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burzmali
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:23 pm
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prime_pm wrote: | Memes are basically reminiscent of "fads." You know those little things that people in high school knew all about and thought were "awesome" or "rockin?" And if you weren't up on the clicheness, you would be mocked openly in front of everyone in school and/or stuffed inside a locker? And by the time you got it, you were either a poser or everyone had just moved on after a minute? Imagine a meme as one of these only you're relatively able to retain your anonymity (so long as you're not stupid enough to give your real name). |
As long as you don't mind lumping Religion and using toilet paper to wipe your rear (both are Memes) in with the above, you're on target
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Richard J.
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:34 pm
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Memes in a nutshell. And sadly, Kevin's cool points are now in the negative zone.
I wonder if I'm the only person to learn about memes from a Dean Koontz novel.
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Zin5ki
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:45 pm
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Purposefully wearing one's rucksack on one shoulder. That's a fad isn't it? It's certainly annoying to see people doing it.
I'm going to remain agnostic as regrds the ANN vs 4chan issue. In their defence 4chan have "provided" for me in the past.
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skyesage
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:15 pm
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Wow, if you guys are so butthurt by 4chan, I can't wait until you take a look at the Encyclopedia Dramatica! (I don't think it would be a great idea to link to it, honestly).
Anyways, this is hilarious, though not exactly how all memes go.
And the Rickroll died one of two times--when Tay Zonday did a cover or when YouTube rickrolled everyone on April Fool's Day.
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prime_pm
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:20 pm
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I don't really care bout 4chan. I just wanted to compare it to Finnegans Wake.
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Leebo
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:22 pm
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As Case said, meme is a very old word. I'm not sure you can attribute not having heard of it to old age.
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braves
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:41 pm
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Teriyaki Terrier
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:09 pm
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prime_pm wrote: | Memes are basically reminiscent of "fads." You know those little things that people in high school knew all about and thought were "awesome" or "rockin?" And if you weren't up on the clicheness, you would be mocked openly in front of everyone in school and/or stuffed inside a locker? And by the time you got it, you were either a poser or everyone had just moved on after a minute? Imagine a meme as one of these only you're relatively able to retain your anonymity (so long as you're not stupid enough to give your real name).
4chans, on the other hand, are just (d)evolving versions of Finnegans Wake. |
I see now, thanks for explaining this to me and others. After several years, one forget's what is popular with young people these days.
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Dargonxtc
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:39 pm
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Soldat of life
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:59 pm
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I saw 4chan in action once, partially at least. That was at Otakon 2007. I saw the lineup and got curious. I had to go meet up with my friend first. When we walked the alley where the lineup was, there were groups of people running everywhere. My friends who were used to Otakon told me that we should leave very fast. I asked why. They said that the groups were mischievious. So I didn't get to see what happened afterwards as I was pulled away. Though my group did pull me to go see Gaia online and I got a free t-shirt of sorts....
As for meme's, the first one I've ever heard of was ''All your base are belong to us'' and the last one being....this strip.
As for the wiki for meme, I'm NOT reading all that....and it likes to really get into weird twists of explanaitons just to get a term out. Maybe that's why nobody can say what a meme is...people give it way too much meaning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, and quite a lot of references are lacking.
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:59 pm
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Wiki wrote: | Meme-theorists contend that memes evolve by natural selection (similarly to Darwinian biological evolution) through the processes of variation, mutation, competition, and inheritance influencing an individual entity's reproductive success. So with memes, some ideas will propagate less successfully and become extinct, while others will survive, spread, and, for better or for worse, mutate. "Memeticists argue that the memes most beneficial to their hosts will not necessarily survive; rather, those memes that replicate the most effectively spread best, which allows for the possibility that successful memes may prove detrimental to their hosts." |
When I read this all I could think of was all those "Anonymous’ ". It seems Darwin was right afterall.
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UtenaAnthy
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:43 pm
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NezuChiza wrote: | It amuses me that people who claim to hate everything about ANN come here and read it. I guess it's like people who dislike porn...you have to keep watching it to make sure you still hate it |
Uhh... I don't watch porn, I know what it is, I'd only need to see a description to understand, I think it's exploitative and I don't watch it.
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jvowles
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:29 pm
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championferret wrote: | That was great xD Memes are funny like that. You just can't explain them to someone else. |
LOLCATS is funny because it takes amusing or cute cat photos, imagines how an adorably cute kitty might say them, and combines the two. It requires a bit of imagination and it has evolved its own language.
Most internet memes, however, are the equivalent of a 6-year-old saying "poopy!", over and over, while all the other little idiots in the class repeat it and think it's hilarious.
Repeating something that's inherently stupid and worthless may, in certain contexts, be a postmodern commentary -- mostly however it's just idiots repeating each other, like monkeys flinging poop.
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