Forum - View topicAnime Expo 2008 - Keynote Address: Vu Nguyen, Crunchyroll
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Nayoko-Kihara
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Quite a few of the shows listed, are marked as "liscensed" when you click their names, and the videos that were previously there are completely unviewable. I'm not sure why they still keep title names and pages on the site after it's been liscensed, but they do. I don't really understand the enjoyment in watching so many things on their site anyway. It's hard enough watching unliscensed things. Rarely is anything in very good quality for free, and a certain amount of time the subtitles are totally unreadable because of it. It's just easier to stick with DVDs from places like DeepDiscount, or even renting them. (Without even having to get off your butt, via Blockbuster and Netflix mailing systems.) And only use online viewing for things that are unliscensed, that can't be bought without importing them and having a Region Free player, or things that have gone totally out of print and have close to zero-chance of being reliscensed or redistributed. (i.e. Sailor Moon) Though, I guess this isn't exactly on-topic, is it? Oh well. |
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tygerchickchibi
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With the ages being 13-17 most kids don't have jobs, no have any type of way to spend money. No credit card to spend, and most likely won't ask their parents to use money just to pay for a legal episode either. And sad to say, adults 18+ don't have a job regardless. That doesn't mean they're college students either.
I giggled. That statement couldn't even be more true. Where's that Verb commercial when you need it? |
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Siegel Clyne
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I have long wondered about this too.
This means that a sizeable majority of Crunchyroll users - about 64% - do not live in the United States. Many, if not most, viewers of English fansubbed anime live outside the United States. What percentage who do I like to know. Many posters and a number of the moderators at the English language forums of a well known English language anime website which provides unlicensed English fansubbed anime links live outside the US and Canada. They live in the UK, Ireland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, France, Italy, Germany, Switzerland, Slovenia, Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Russia, Israel, China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, the Philippines, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia, New Zealand, Mexico, Argentina, etc. Last edited by Siegel Clyne on Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:52 am; edited 1 time in total |
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zargas
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If it's any consolation, this sort of weirdness is not a new situation for the media industry. Cable TV in the USA started in a similar fashion. It originated to service markets that weren't reached by broadcast TV (ie: remote locations), but it was technically illegal because it infringed on numerous rules and copyrights established around the broadcast TV model. The whole thing was quite a messy affair that took decades to sort out; there's a decent historical overview at http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/U/htmlU/unitedstatesc/unitedstatesc.htm Staying sane in the media business (or at least analyzing its history) means realizing that morality, legality, and practicality are all three entirely different things. |
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MrVince
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I like the direction you're going with this comment, and wished you could expanded more. I'm inferring you take issue with the 13-34 age range being too broad as income one could get in this range can vary greatly. |
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samuelp
Industry Insider
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Frankly CR's numbers are all somewhat inflated. They should discount any traffic to the site outside of US and Canada, since people in southeast asia don't have the type of disposable income, nor would they probably be able to get global rights to any shows legally. But instead they lump those numbers in because it looks better to investors. Just like television programs don't care about overall ratings, they only care about target demo ratings, all that matters with CR's traffic is how many people in the 18-34 range _who live in the US or Canada_ there are, since they are who they could legally get any serious income from. |
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Shiroi Hane
Encyclopedia Editor
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DId you miss the next line or something?
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tygerchickchibi
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Yeah, I could have. Honestly, I knew quite a few people that don't have/won't get/can't get jobs and still live with their parents, either having limited or no income. I mean, on a personal level, some are bums, end of story, sad to say...But I don't think I'm wrong in saying to actually make an effort to do something else instead of worrying about the schematics of fansubs vs DVDs and actually try to do something in life. >_>; Trust me, I know, it wasn't a proud moment in my life when I didn't work. It sucks. I'm just surprised that no one has mentioned this before.
No actually, I didn't. The 99% part kind of caught my eye, so I quoted it, though it still brings the point I was making earlier. Next to that, I was running off to work. ^^; sorry. |
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