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Ramadahl
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Well then, is it foolish for those who think otherwise to suspect that based on the hints given that those who think Kaorin is a lesbian are searching for evidence just a little too desperately? |
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pieisexactlythree
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You miss the point. I don't need to push the argument at all. In fact, I think it's utterly bogus. Rather, I was pointing out that this is where you would end up if you did. The point is that this sort of inductive argument is actually quite silly, and leads to some bizare hypotheses. |
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omar235
 Posts: 1572 Location: Florida, Jacksonvile |
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Haha don't they
 I for one think its fine that you guys don't think she's a lesbian, like I said earlier we all interpret things diffrently. I just dont know why you guys are thinking we are frantically trying to find evidence, after all its not like they try to hide any of it. You guys keep saying we are flat out wrong (Ramadahl and Mohawk52-sorry didn't mean to call you out ) when you can't know that for sure til someone goes and talks to the creators of the series, and we can't prove you wrong either we can only provide evidence, but at least we never said that she was gay, period. We let you have your opinions let us have ours. Not trying to kill the disscusion or anything but theres no reason to think we are foolish for thinking she could be gay.
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Wolverine Princess
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You don't have to over-analyze the situation and search obsessively for evidence to suspect that Kaorin is gay. I watched Azumanga with my innocent six year old brother, and at one point during the show even he turned to me and asked, "Does that girl like other girls?" It's pretty obvious that she's at the very least bisexual. The comparison of Kaorin to Smithers from the Simpsons in one of the earlier pages was dead on. There's plenty of evidence that she could possibly be gay, and none that I could see to the contrary. Those who think Kaorin is not a lesbian are searching for evidence just a little too desperately. |
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Hisdon
 Posts: 411 Location: Poquoson, VA |
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your brother is gonna be good w/ litature!
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Ramadahl
Posts: 325 Location: MK, UK |
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*looks up inductive reasoning* Ok, sorry, I misunderstood. v_v
Actually, as I said back on page 5 of this discussion;
This is just a conflict of differing interpretations
Not quite. In fact I'm not searching for any evidence at all. I'm just debunking any "evidence" that others are bringing up to try to show that she is. Because at the moment it seems people are bringing up a few scenes, reading way too much into them, and taking things to logical extremes. And this kind of overreactionary responce seems all to common in today's society, so I'm not too surprised that a six-year-old could make the leap from "girl likes another girl" to "OMFG LESBO!!" (paraphrased, I know...). It's obvious that Kaorin has a crush on Sakaki (I don't think anyone has denied this?), but it's quite a leap to go from saying that to saying "Kaorin's sexual orientation is towards women". I'll throw out the example of Wakaba from Revolutionary Girl Utena (the TV series - not the movie, which is rather odd). At the start of the series Wakaba quite often glomps Utena, saying she loves her, wants to marry her, etc. but it's quite obvious (and later proven) that she's hetrosexual. She just has a fangirl crush (because Utena's so cool) which evaporates once a guy she likes happens along. This seem pretty much analogous to Kaorin's situation in Azumanga.
The irony... |
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Mint Mania IIDX
 Posts: 77 Location: Central |
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Azumanga Daioh. Serious business. Kaorin likes girls. To say it's "quite a leap" to say she does is a pretty bad statement. If I plunge my face into a chocolate cake and start gnarling away at it, would it be a huge leap to say "Mint likes chocolate"? Kaorin has an attraction to a girl. By definition, this makes her a lesbian. Since this subject actually hits very close to home (hi mom), I seriously don't think the chain of thought is all that irrational.
Worst anime possible to use as a counter-example. |
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Ramadahl
Posts: 325 Location: MK, UK |
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There's a world of difference between a girl having a schoolgirl crush on another girl and said girl being sexually oriented towards women. And using "likes" here is fairly weak, it's too ambiguous.
Point taken, but the specific part I was focusing works very well as an example. If it makes things easier for you, ignore the title and focus on the content that I was referencing. |
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pieisexactlythree
Posts: 72 Location: Portland, OR |
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Mint, I respect your empiricism on this matter, but there's one rather unique factor you haven't taken into account. Kaorin doesn't like girls plural, she likes a girl. This perhaps pushes it into the realm of "I'd go gay for _____." I think gender and sexual orientation become secondary concerns when this level of obsession is at work. If Sakaki were transformed into an animal, a la the Sohma family, Kaorin would probably "go bestial."
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Dargonxtc
 Posts: 4463 Location: Nc5xd7+ スターダストの海洋 |
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Ugh, please don't bring that up again. I mean I guess it is all in the eyes of the beholder. I for one don't see any of that aspect, at all. But if Mint does, he does, I just think he is wrong. As far as Kaorin being a lesbian, Bi, or infatuated with Sakaki only, I think are all reasonable assumptions. And I don't really disagree with any of them. What do I think, well I think she is infatuated. On a sexual front what do I think, I think Kaorin would go as far as Sakaki would let her. 
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omar235
Posts: 1572 Location: Florida, Jacksonvile |
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I'll rephrase my previous statements on Kaorin being gay and say this: Even if she isn't (considered/or is) lesbian now, with the level of infatuation she has with Sakaki theres a strong possibility she soon will be. Oh and I'm too tired to go back and look at the posts to see who talked about this but someone mentioned that since Kaorin dosen't show the same interest in the other girls she isn't gay, but you are forgeting the crush she has on is Sakaki why would she show interest in the other girls...none of the other girls are even on her radar.
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Mint Mania IIDX
Posts: 77 Location: Central |
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Glad we're on the same page there. Concerning Sakaki's bestial desires, I wouldn't put money on it, really. I think it's one of those "Think about it. ^__^" theories. |
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pieisexactlythree
Posts: 72 Location: Portland, OR |
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You all have obviously put a lot of thought into this. So whip out that slashfic you've been working on!
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Mint Mania IIDX
Posts: 77 Location: Central |
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I could just post a bunch of AzuDai hentai. |
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Daemonblue
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As for Kaorin, it's obvious that she's a fan of Sakaki to the point of the obsession. As was stated before, it's one of those "I'd go gay for ____." things.
As for Sakaki and licking herself, it's a common belief in Japan that licking your WOUNDS (as in they don't have to be bleeding) helps them heal faster. As for the way she acts around animals in general, someone stated that the others (other than the girl with the dog) probably don't have pets, but that might be because they don't want one, with Sakaki she CAN'T have one (if I remember correctly her parents are allergic to them). now add the fact that she even wants to be a veterinarian and likes cute things but was never cute herself and you start to see why she acts the way she does. As for everyone that has their minds in the gutter.../wrists |
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