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Hegemonic
 Posts: 23 Location: Waltham, MA |
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Yeah...truly, brave men die only once, but cowards die a thousand times...
Wait...he's brave? Well, I could say he's foolhardy, but brave?...Livin' on the fast lane? You make it sound cool, when it isn't. As for bravery and cowardice...the latter would apply. So they caught him doing something illegal, is it going to help in the total situation? No, but he was stopped, just like the next one will be. Last edited by Hegemonic on Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:36 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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larinon
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I don't really think it's criminal to take something that you created and sell it for a minuscule profit. The prices are set so that they can reasonably expect to at least make back what was spent producing the material, plus a little extra so that they can earn a living. This is true in Japan and in the US. The prices are what they are because that's what is necessary to sustain the industry. I do agree that this is worse than fansubs, but just because a person thinks the actual price is unfair does not justify giving someone other than the creators of the content (or relevant licensees) money for that content. It undermines the entire industry.
I've never felt especially heroic when I place a blank disc in my DVD burner. Maybe I should be queueing up the Rocky theme when I do it. |
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SeinenAi
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Well he made like $9000, and I forgot if he had 3 or 4 sets, but it was $500 a set so about $2000 so he made about $7000...not much if you are risking jail IMO. |
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Fear Ghoul
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I think the point he was trying to get at was that pirates who get arrested are somehow seen as martyrs for a cause that is percieved to be small innocent good guy versus supremely evil megacorporate conglomerate, as if they are akin to freedome fighters of some kind. I once had a friend describe to me piracy as "fighting fire with fire". Of course, because it was totally the businesses who wronged the customer first, and not the other way round. 
As far as I'm concerned the man arrested in Japan is amongst the lowest scum in the pirating business, not content merely with ripping off the businesses, but also the customers. I hope they lock him up and throw away the key along with all the other human scum. |
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SeinenAi
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Like I said, I am not condoning the criminal behavior of this guy, but there is no way that it costs $500 for a few movies. It is $400 for all 7 seasons of Star Trek TNG for instance. Also, think about how popular Dragonball is...it must have made enough money over the years for a box set of movies to be less than $500... I REALLY doubt $500 creates a minuscule profit. |
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Dark Elf Warrior
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He's right, and so is everybody else who is against this guy who pirates anime. Yeah, so there still will be dirtbags who pirate anime DVDs. But something is being done to stop it. Get with it and just accept it melonbread. Or do you buy pirated DVDs and not want these people to stop? 
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Daimao Raki
 Posts: 593 Location: Dark Side of the Moon |
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This fool should have known better. How in the hell did he think he was going to get away with selling Dragonbox material for pennies almost? Toei doesn't like anyone trying to cut into their profits.
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kazana144
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Punishing drug dealers doesn't stop drug dealing either. Punishing burglary and robbery doesn't stop them from happening. Punishing murderers doesn't stop murders from happening. Are you telling me that we shouldn't punish people for crimes?
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rizuchan
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Bootleg DVD manufacturers rarely use dual layer DVDs. They copy the originals, take out all of the extras and compress the video to death until it fits on a DVD-5. To make them even cheaper, sometimes they squeeze more than one set of episodes/movie on a disk. And regular DVD-Rs are dirt cheap. Also, if he's making a business manufacturing and selling DVDs, he probably has equipment that can burn more than one DVD at once. I did some volunteer work at a church a few years ago and they had a gadget that burned 10 copies of a CD at once. |
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larinon
Posts: 992 Location: Midland, TX |
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In the long standing tradition of internet forums everywhere, I hadn't RTFA. Yes, $500 is a lot, and you're right there's most likely extra profit built into that. It's not mentioned in the article, but this probably had to be some kind of special or commemorative edition that was being released. If that is indeed the case, then I can see the need for a higher price tag if they're doing a limited run, especially if extra work was done in creating these sets, such as adding extras, remastering the movies, and so on. It could also be the case that they're just cashing in on their IP by making a collector's edition. But if that's true then surely the individual movies were already available separately or maybe were even already previously released in box set form. --------------------------- In reference to other posts: DVD-Rs that are burned copies are typically much less durable or long-lasting than a DVD that has been pressed by the official company. It's really not a good way to get anime, no matter how you look at it. |
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Panda Man
 Posts: 257 Location: North Carolina |
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I just want them to shut down more of the sites selling "official" boxsets of anime. I get tired of the amount of places that sell things like Full Metal Panic Complete on 3 disk for $24.99. But, this is also good since the man definitely deserves to be in prison.
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Daimao Raki
Posts: 593 Location: Dark Side of the Moon |
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Just for information purposes, Toei did 4 other Dragonbox sets. Dragonball Z was divided into 2 sets, One was done for all of Dragonball, and GT saw it's own boxset. The sets for DB and DBZ were 800 dollars a piece. GT's set was about 400-ish. All the sets came with extras and such. Funny thing is Toei released single DVDs for all the series, and if you total the cost of buying them all, it equals the cost of buying a Dragonbox. |
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Dark Elf Warrior
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People should be punished for their crimes. |
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504NOSON2
 Subscriber Posts: 647 Location: Body:Santa Barbara, CA ~ Heart:New Orleans, LA |
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It has to start somewhere. So,you can't expect each individual guy getting busted for illegally profiting from Anime to completely scare the other ones in to submission. But,it's three giant steps toward doing so. 
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504NOSON2
Subscriber Posts: 647 Location: Body:Santa Barbara, CA ~ Heart:New Orleans, LA |
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What???!!! The guys distributing other people's property illegally over the net,and that guy simply thinks he's a hero among pirates,thats all. Nothing else to read into it. He's not the 21st century Robin Hood(plus Robin Hood didn't make a profit from his thievery)He's just low-life bootlegger who got caught and they'll be plenty more to come.
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