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braves
Joined: 29 Dec 2007
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Location: Puerto Rico (but living in Texas)
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:58 am
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jsevakis
Former ANN Editor in Chief
Joined: 28 Jul 2003
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:23 pm
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Please note that it doesn't say which Billboard video chart. I never once saw this mysterious chart in my years at CPM, and I'm SURE it would have come up at some point.
BTW, Salaryman Joe, I don't for a minute buy that story about the licensing of Odin. I think that was licensed as part of a package from Gaga Communications back in the day.
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Hunter Sopko
Joined: 05 Mar 2003
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:54 pm
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jsevakis wrote: | Please note that it doesn't say which Billboard video chart. I never once saw this mysterious chart in my years at CPM, and I'm SURE it would have come up at some point.
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Same, but the one featuring Battle Arena Toshinden was always prominently displayed!
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The Unknown 24
Joined: 07 Jan 2007
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:01 pm
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I borrowed(from a friend) and copied MD Geist 1 and 2 to a vhs tape back in the day. I wanted both shows on one tape.
It was just a show to watch and waste some time. In my own opinion it is worth seeing once or twice.
Back when it came out on vhs( 1992), the anime industry (as far as getting a market in the USA) was still in it's infant stage.
Now we have a lot better anime selection to choose from.
MD Geist was not all that bad considering the way anime was in that time period.
But we all have our own opinion, you like what you like and I like what I like, etc...
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lord-darkseid
Joined: 11 Apr 2006
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:52 am
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Did you do Odin for the Buried Garbage segment yet?
That's become my nominee for worst anime ever.
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jsevakis
Former ANN Editor in Chief
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:31 pm
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No Odin yet. My personal rule is that I have to watch at least half of a Buried Garbage (without skipping around or fast-forwarding) if I'm going to write as if I've evaluated it fully. I have yet to be able to get through more than 10% of Odin.
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Descent123
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:22 pm
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Harmagedon when you have the chance.
Terrible.
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Lee1981
Joined: 17 Jul 2007
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:54 pm
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How about Cybernetics Guardian, and that way you'd have the whole trilogy of Koichi Ohata?
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Descent123
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:15 pm
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Lee1981 wrote: | How about Cybernetics Guardian, and that way you'd have the whole trilogy of Koichi Ohata? |
I can't call it crap, but it's not good either.
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LeoKnight25
Joined: 23 Aug 2005
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Location: Puyallup, WA
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:31 pm
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Forget the hate for M.D. Geist, what's up with all the hate for Odin? While not on par with Yamato, it's still a fun movie. I've seen the movie at least 5 times since it came out and I've never been bored with it. Sure, it's a bit long in parts at 139 minutes but, that's nothing compared to Final Yamato at 161 minutes. Anyway, length aside, I still stand by enjoying the heck out of both Odin and M.D. Geist. Admittedly, the director's cut for Geist and part II are both trash but, the original first part is fun. This is what I don't understand about most anime fans: how damned judgmental they are about certain periods of anime's history. Sometimes folks just take things way too far. I think everyone and their dead grandmother has reviewed M.D. Geist, Harmageddon and Odin; and I personally believe that the bashing is just getting a bit old.
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lord_darkseid
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:16 pm
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Well, for me personally, I loved Final Yamato, and hated Odin. After collecting for 20 years, I don't bash on periods of anime, but not everything in those periods was good to me. I enjoyed the space opera film era, but not all of the films, hence my dislike for Odin. Biggest waste of resources I've ever seen in an anime. One day I'll have to write a piece about it. Harmageddon... hmmm.. I bought it but haven't sat down to watch, even though I liked Rin Taro's 80's films. Ah well, one day...
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Kruszer
Joined: 19 Nov 2004
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Location: Minnesota, USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:44 am
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*Shudders* Hmm...yeah I saw this one on Sci-Fi last week as well and have to agree it's pretty awful.
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SalarymanJoe
Joined: 03 Feb 2005
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:53 am
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LeoKnight25 wrote: | This is what I don't understand about most anime fans: how damned judgmental they are about certain periods of anime's history. |
I'll echo lord_darkseid's comments that it's not so much bashing any one specific time period. If anything, I'll err on the sides of older stuff from the seventies and eighties but not all of it was gold, hence why there's Buried garbage as well as treasure. Each title, no matter its time period, should be viewed and examined on its own merits.
But hey, if you enjoyed Odin and Harmageddon, more power to you. Don't let us detractors ruin your fun (as I'm sure you're not).
jsevakis wrote: | BTW, Salaryman Joe, I don't for a minute buy that story about the licensing of Odin. I think that was licensed as part of a package from Gaga Communications back in the day. |
I'll have to double-check where I heard it. I know it was one of the AWO interviews and I've narrowed it down to two, I just can't remember which. In the meantime, I'll edit my original post to note speculation and poor memory.
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Anime World Order
Joined: 05 May 2006
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Location: Florida
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:09 am
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jsevakis wrote: | BTW, Salaryman Joe, I don't for a minute buy that story about the licensing of Odin. I think that was licensed as part of a package from Gaga Communications back in the day. |
SalarymanJoe wrote: | I'll have to double-check where I heard it. I know it was one of the AWO interviews and I've narrowed it down to two, I just can't remember which. In the meantime, I'll edit my original post to note speculation and poor memory. |
You probably heard the story during the Odin review with Mike Toole, though it should be noted that the anecdote was prefaced with some sort of "I have no proof that this is true" type disclaimer. I'm somewhat skeptical that Gaga Communications was involved with the Odin deal, since a trailer for it wasn't included on that infamous promotional tape of theirs. MD Geist was though, under the name "Thunder Warrior." I get a kick out of that trailer because it describes MD Geist as "high energy, high CONCEPT animation" (I think that's the quote) while somewhat awkwardly editing around all the gory violence. Sure, Gaga Communications could have conceivably been handling titles other than what was on that tape, but based on what Rob Fenelon said regarding his interactions with Yoshinobu Nishizaki and his West Cape Corporation, I don't think "The Nish" would have left the licensing of one of his properties in the hands of anyone else.
Based on what's on the tape, I assume that the titles CPM licensed as part of the package deal with Gaga is as follows: Crystal Triangle, Project A-Ko, They Were Eleven, Yotoden, Roots Search, The Humanoid, and MD Geist. Each and every single one of those is Buried Treasure/Garbage!
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SalarymanJoe
Joined: 03 Feb 2005
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:36 am
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Anime World Order wrote: | You probably heard the story during the Odin review with Mike Toole, though it should be noted that the anecdote was prefaced with some sort of "I have no proof that this is true" type disclaimer. |
I thought it was during the Odin review but I wasn't thinking of Mike Toole. I'm sure you're right, seeing as you did the review
Sorry for putting words in anyone's mouth or mistakingly promoting something that's hardly, remotely true.
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