Forum - View topicNEWS: Prosecutor Alludes to Manga in UK Student's Murder Case
|
Goto page Previous 1, 2 Note: this is the discussion thread for this article |
| Author | Message | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|
|
abunai
Old Regular
 Posts: 5463 Location: 露命 |
|
|||
Yes, it is. That was sort of the whole point of the Bible-related remarks. Irony by comparison. Didn't get it? Well, you just sit right there and think about it, and we'll wait for you to catch up. Don't worry about us, we're patient. - abunai |
||||
|
||||
Zin5ki
 Posts: 6680 Location: London, UK |
|
|||
As crap as the sources used are, from perusing Google News it appears better UK sources are now taking up the manga aspect of the case. |
||||
|
||||
The Ramblin' Wreck
 Posts: 924 Location: Teaching Robot Women How To Love |
|
|||
Thanks, that's so considerate of you. These threads always descend into "They can pry my Tokyopop from my cold, dead hands". |
||||
|
||||
ManOfRust
 Posts: 1935 Location: Seattle, WA |
|
|||
Yes, you are correct. This case has been very complicated and disturbing. As mrsatan (whoa, there's some irony considering what they were reporting today) mentioned, this has been a big news story here in the Seattle area for nearly a year now. This is the first time any specific details about the crime scene have been released by the prosecutor's office as far as I remember. Not that I have been actively following the case, but it's hard to ignore. The manga connection as well as the satanic ritual part were mentioned on the news report I heard on the radio this morning while driving in to work. I wondered if it would end up on ANN and sure enough here it is, but at least on the radio news story the manga (or as they said, "Japanese comics") thing was just mentioned in passing and they weren't actively drawing any conclusions. |
||||
|
||||
Leon Evolon
 Posts: 212 Location: Crazytowne |
|
|||
True, with any case of murder I would think that it would be hard to prove guilt without some sort of evidence. In this case it seems like they have a rather solid case against the roommate as it is, I don't see why they needed to throw in, "Oh, and he reads gory manga." 
|
||||
|
||||
RedTail
 Posts: 176 |
|
|||
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding! Legal definition is "malice aforethought" and is a condition that must be met when trying to convict someone of more serious murder charges (in the US, first degree/premeditated murder). The books are a good starting point in proving that the accused planned the murder out ahead of time. The prosecutor is totally in bounds bringing this up. We all love anime and manga. Why else would we be reading this site? But let's not put blinders on every time our passion gets tied to something gruesome like this. The book may have been a source of inspiration, but it didn't kill that girl. |
||||
|
||||
ikillchicken
 Posts: 7272 Location: Vancouver |
|
|||
Well, I'm not a lawyer but it seems logical to me to throw in anything you can. It's not going to hurt so every little thing you can add to make him seem guilty it's probably a good idea. It's just a good idea even if you have a strong case already. |
||||
|
||||
Mohawk52
 Posts: 8202 Location: England, UK |
|
|||
|
||||
|
||||
hikaru004
 Posts: 2306 |
|
|||
|
The Italian prosecutor might be trying to go for life imprisonment and is using premeditation as a reason. In other words, the accused were mimicking the manga to commit the crime. That would mean possibility of parole after 26 years in prison. Basically, the prosecutor is trying to throw the book at them. (pun intended)
Hopefully, the prosecutor can make it stick. You guys need to not be so defensive whenever a crime is linked to manga and see the bigger picture. |
||||
|
||||
Vortextk
 Posts: 892 Location: Orlando, Fl |
|
|||
|
It does seem, from what little info we have, that it atleast COULD be part of the case. That alone is enough reason to introduce it.
I mean sure, I don't think playing a game will make teenagers kill people. But if you play grand theft auto one day, change your computer password to "killpedestrians" and then run down 10 people the next day with your car, odds are, the game MAY have influenced you. |
||||
|
||||
|
KannaLilly
Posts: 14 |
|
|||
|
Gah! It reminds me of the 'manga murders' in Belgium!
Okay, people try to blame murder on anime all the time, ever since that creepy lolicon fanatic made the meaning of 'Otaku' turn sour. But instead of manga influencing these thoughts and behaviors, isn't it more likely that the thoughts and behaviors influenced the books they read? And also, I don't really think it's acceptable to say that it's the manga's fault if it's the CONDITIONS of the murder. The fact that she comited murder has little to do with the manga. The conditions, however, might. Again, Belgium manga murders. (okay, so it was murder. only ONE) Someone left two notes that said 'Watashi wa KIRA dess'. that isn't even the right spelling! The guy was obviously metally unsable, but he left notes, so it MUST be Death Note's fault. It's not that the prosocuters are saying so, it's just what the general public interprits. |
||||
|
||||
Bluebeard
 Posts: 267 Location: Massachusetts |
|
|||
|
Hrmm.. kinda odd to see this case popping up again, here of all places. I saw a "Dateline 48 Hours Mystery" on this case but I can't recall them mentioning anything about manga during that story. Honestly though it seems impossible for a murder case involving people under 30 to be investigated without trying to allude to horror movies, heavy metal/rap music, video games, etc. With the size of my horror movie collection, I'm surprised I haven't been investigated for anything yet
|
||||
|
||||
dangerwhat
 Posts: 187 Location: Central Florida |
|
|||
|
Well thats interesting....
I didn't even know there was a Shin Maiou Dante xD |
||||
|
||||
|
dormcat
Encyclopedia Editor
 Posts: 9902 Location: New Taipei City, Taiwan, ROC |
|
|||
|
Here's some update after TEN long years: While 風我明 was clearly a coined pen name, the cover of Shin Maō Dante did not have official romanization or furigana of his name (I couldn't locate any copyright page, legal or scanlation), so it was natural for many sources back then romanizing the given name 明 as "Akira," the most common way (and the most widely known, thanks to the groundbreaking movie) to spell this kanji. There had been different sources saying Sollecito's password for his computer was either "akirafuga" or "akira fudo."
However, in the second -- and final to this day -- of Fūga's work Blood Boy in 1997, it turned out the kanji 明 was spelled as "Aki" right on the cover. There had been discussions over that more famous manga/anime movie that got "involved" by the press like The Sun, but I can't locate the original article either; Escenic Content Engine (.ece) pages common for British news websites don't get archived as easily as HTML. If I were trying to link the case with manga/anime, I'd rather point to the far more famous movie (which was no less violent) rather than a manga that never got an overseas release. |
||||
|
||||
 |
All times are GMT - 5 Hours |
|
|
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group