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doctordoom85



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:40 pm Reply with quote
Bika-chan wrote:
How were you able to not distinguish the filler and non-filler episodes of InuYasha?! I mean, I'm just curious because most of those fillers were either awful or were very inconsistent. But, then again, that's just my opinion.


I mean in terms of plot progression. There are tons of canon episodes that you could remove without messing up continuity at all. Let's face it, canon Inuyasha is still a SLOW series. Generally, I do agree the filler was weaker, but I meant identifying filler by checking for plot progression/character development.
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Bika-chan



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:57 pm Reply with quote
doctordoom85 wrote:
Bika-chan wrote:
How were you able to not distinguish the filler and non-filler episodes of InuYasha?! I mean, I'm just curious because most of those fillers were either awful or were very inconsistent. But, then again, that's just my opinion.


I mean in terms of plot progression. There are tons of canon episodes that you could remove without messing up continuity at all. Let's face it, canon Inuyasha is still a SLOW series. Generally, I do agree the filler was weaker, but I meant identifying filler by checking for plot progression/character development.

Actually, that's what I meant. By the time InuYasha and Kagome knew about each of their feelings, the filler episodes after that development had the two of them denying their feelings all over again. It was kind of annoying.
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championferret



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:14 pm Reply with quote
Quark wrote:
Ramadahl wrote:

Y'know, I can't think of a single one. I see Mahoromatic and TUYBW mentioned, neither of which I've seen, and Eva, by someone who probably also needs to read the dictionary, but... that's like two.



I only mentioned Misato because she shares some of the characteristics of the nympho teacher - the flirting with young boys, the drinking, etc. But in no way do I consider her to be a nympho teacher character.
I can assure you sir, I do indeed know what the words 'nympho' and 'teacher' mean.
But now that you mention it, I'm starting to wonder if there are more. Even if it is just the two, the character type is irritating enough that one would hope they would never appear in anime ever again.


I dont know much about Misato, but I was referring to the teachers shown in DearS, Mahoromatic and Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu. I'm pretty sure there are others that I cant remember (possibly because the anime themselves were so bad) There's sexy teachers in alot of anime, but the nympho ones are the ones that physically attack their students, often show up to class in lingerie or get drunk off their face for no apparent reason. As I said in the submission: this bugs the hell out of me not because I find it misogynist or that I find the age gap disgusting or anything, but because it's such a crime against comedy. Something that's meant to be funny (or arrousing, even) when it is so tragically not is the sort of cliche I wish would die, even if as said I cant think of overflowing examples.
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everluxxe



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:51 am Reply with quote
Silverman's response could be applied to yaoi as well, haha (replace "shoujo heroine" with "uke").

The last anime I watched that seriously excited me was Gundam 00, surprisingly. I say "surprisingly" because I thought it would use mecha cliches, have a one-dimensional storyline, etc. Well, I ended up marathoning G00 over the course of five or six days over the summer. If it weren't for work and sleep, I wouldn't have stopped watching! The characters, especially, just grew on me spoiler[ahhh the ending Anime cry ]... I'm not too sure this makes me proud to be an anime fan because there's a particular stereotype attached to fans of mecha anime (although Code Geass seems to have changed this a bit).

Coming in a close second would be Kaiba, which really touched me on many levels. I think the 1st poster is writing about it, so I'll stop here and leave it up to him/her.
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Top Gun



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:16 am Reply with quote
I know it's intensely overdone and cliche, but I have to go with the Gurren-Lagann answer for this week's question. I mean, come on. Very Happy Having just finished up Kaiba, I can see why people would list that as an answer too. One of the most artistically stunning works I've seen in any medium.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:01 am Reply with quote
Kaiba and Gurren Lagen seem to be getting quite a bit of praise here. On these grounds I would consider watching them, but I'm worried they'll require a bit of suspension of disbelief- something I'm not too good at doing.
For this reason FLCL hasn't thus far been able to immerse me particularly, dispite its best efforts.
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pparker



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:52 am Reply with quote
Zin5ki wrote:
Kaiba and Gurren Lagen seem to be getting quite a bit of praise here. On these grounds I would consider watching them, but I'm worried they'll require a bit of suspension of disbelief- something I'm not too good at doing.
For this reason FLCL hasn't thus far been able to immerse me particularly, dispite its best efforts.
Seeing as how the vast majority of anime is sci-fi or fantasy to some degree, there's not much left to watch if you don't like suspending disbelief. FLCL could be done straight reality, but then it would be shown in the afternoon on Lifetime channel in the U.S., having become a boring teen coming-of-age miniseries.

Gurren Lagann is coming-of-age as well, but in the context of an epic sci-fi adventure story. Quite similar to the original Star Wars trilogy in terms of theme and characterization. Better in some ways because of the advantages of animation and for plot points that I will refrain from spoiling Shocked, but it's hard to compare a 30-year old iconic classic across media and time fairly.

I suppose I need to watch Kaiba now. Those character designs just didn't do it for me the first time I saw them.


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animepuppy



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:56 am Reply with quote
i think the anime that really got me excited is the one im currtently watching right now, Gurren Lagann. It has every great anime plot points ever made, awesome characters with human feelings, awesome mechs that beat the crap out of each other and create (literly) nucular explotions, i mean what more can u want.
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Levitz9



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:56 am Reply with quote
Bika-chan wrote:
Craeyst Raygal wrote:
You know, it kind of irritates me when people lump Tenchi Masaki into the "spineless shonen comedy lead" category because it shows that people DID NOT WATCH THE SHOW!



.....

.... Embarassed ....

Mea culpa, mea culpa.....Anime cry

I really don't think I can answer...er...Answerman's 'Answerfans' question. I'm fairly new in Anime, and haven't suffered a burn-out yet. I just finished watching Martian Successor Nadesico last night, and next week I'm starting with GaoGaiGar[/i]. I'm also ordering the [b]Kiddy Grade boxed set. I think I'm on an anime Honeymoon...I'll be sure to call when I'm in my Anime Low. Anime smile
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:08 am Reply with quote
Ramadahl wrote:
abunai wrote:
I find it interesting that the first question seems to indicate that the person who submitted it thinks that Taiga, the female lead of ToraDora isn't moe.

Well, the whole moe thing has always been kinda murky. It's not that unusual for people to think that moe = characters like Misuzu.

Yah, I know -- but that's as narrow in scope and understanding as the (no longer so common, but still functional as a cultural underlayer) European penchant for equating all Americans (mentally) with ten-gallon-hat-wearing, rootin'-tootin' 1920s movie cowboys.

True, Misuzu is a classic moe type, but her type is far from the only one in the moe "spectrum". The tsundere type (to which Taiga belongs) is a radically different type, but still moe.

What makes a moe character moe, in essence, is the core vulnerability of the character -- the softness (at heart) that makes the viewer want to protect and guide her/him. Although a tsundere character is hard as nails on the outside, it doesn't take much insight for the viewer to understand that the hard exterior belies a tender interior -- that the tsundere type may, in fact, be even more vulnerable than other moe types. This is what brings on the moe impulse.

Compare this with the revelation presented about the genki-type moe girl Kushieda, in ep. 3 of ToraDora -- spoiler[the fact that, for all her outwardly spunky and bright ways, she has been carrying around a great deal of anxiety, which she has hidden so successfully that it is only revealed by chance (in effect, making her a parallel to the tsundere type, only with a softer shell and a correspondingly softer core)].

- abunai
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maaya



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:43 am Reply with quote
Zin5ki wrote:
Kaiba and Gurren Lagen seem to be getting quite a bit of praise here. On these grounds I would consider watching them, but I'm worried they'll require a bit of suspension of disbelief- something I'm not too good at doing.
For this reason FLCL hasn't thus far been able to immerse me particularly, dispite its best efforts.


well Kaiba is nothing like FLCL for sure. But Kaiba is bitter-sweet, melancholic and a real piece of art overflowing with imagination going beyond the borders of what you'd usually consider "anime". I guess you have to be in the right, calm mood to watch it and also be open minded about the art style. Personally I dislike the art style, but somehow it works really well in the series and I think you get used to it really fast. (let's say FLCL needs a lot more of suspension of disbelief imho.) The opening and ending themes are so beautiful as well. So, yea, I agree that Kaiba has been one of the best series this year (actually the best series if you count only spring and summer season), but it certainly isn't for everybody. Guess you really need to try it yourself to find out.

Gurren Lagann however is pretty easy to watch, maybe one episode in a bit of a weird style, but else ... really normal anime style and a nice story. Definitely worth watching as well.
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MarthaC



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:56 am Reply with quote
One plot device that gets me is that while our heroes (Naruto, all DBZ characters, etc.) are powering up the one they are fighting against doesn't blast them or something. Instead, they stand around in awe and shock- sometimes even talking about it. Rolling Eyes

The only anime I ever saw that didn't do this, was one episode in
Shizo where the bad guy got the hero just before he went into his powered up mode (the name of which I've forgotten)
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MrAnimeSpecialist



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:05 am Reply with quote
belvadeer wrote:
Second, cliches. Huh, well, yeah. The shonen and moe-type anime and manga pretty much fill the very definition of cliche after cliche, right? As far as other types, I wonder what creative work honestly doesn't fall under a cliche these days.


This is the reason why parody anime (like Magical Project S and Bobobo-Bo Bo-bobo) exist. They point and laugh at anime cliches, even though they don't mind indulging in them as well(the former pokes fun at Magical Girl series while the later makes a mockery of the shonen genre in general). There are some duds as well( like Nurse-Witch Komugi), so be wary on which parody series you may want to try out.

Also, I have no problems with suspending my disbelief. Of course, being autistic helps. Wink

Levitz9 wrote:
I just finished watching Martian Successor Nadesico last night, and next week I'm starting with GaoGaiGar[/i]. I'm also ordering the Kiddy Grade boxed set. I think I'm on an anime Honeymoon...I'll be sure to call when I'm in my Anime Low.


On the subject of [b]Gaogaigar
, you've made a good choice! Anime catgrin On the other hand, I've heard some bad things about Kiddy Grade. Neutral You may want to tread the waters lightly on that one.[/quote]
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fuuma_monou



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:30 pm Reply with quote
Bokura ga Ita was the last anime that really got me going. Akitaro Daichi doing drama does that. I know Viz will be releasing the manga as We Were There, but I haven't heard about any U.S. companies picking up the anime.
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Mistypearl



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:43 pm Reply with quote
Sheleigha wrote:
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In Chobits, Chi does a Pinocchio and turns into a real girl at the end


Wait.... was this the same Chobits I was watching? 0_o


He could be talking about the manga, I know as a little kid I saw on the cover on it "Ohh pretty girl shiny book I wonder what's inside" And then I was like... now I see why my sister didn't want me to read it Anime cry So I never got to the ending, but it could be either the manga/anime they might have different endings
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