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Maidenoftheredhand
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Huh she ended all her manga with the exception of Mermaid Saga and you can argue that doesn't even need a real ending because besides the two main characters who appear in every story it's not really continous. And she did 100% end Ranma. The ending might be open ended and Ranma & Akane did not get married when they were in High School, but that does not mean this is not the ending of the series. She just chose a "life goes on" type of ending for Ranma. And all her other series definitely ended and most have pretty conclusive endings as well. |
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fighterholic
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Heck, she only recently finished One Pound Gospel. |
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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Sewing isn't the fetish. Stuffed animals isn't the fetish. I do agree that there are plenty of robot-girl anime that fit into or are close to Rozen Maiden's niche of moe Victorian-type dolls, though. Of course, there's also the lolicon aspect to it, and most robot girls I've seen look a little more adult (and they don't always have doll joints, which may or may not be part of the fetish for some people). |
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CCSYueh
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Disagree. Ranma is a situation comedy. Yes, in tv series one doesn't usually get a soulution to the situation, but in a lot fo stories/movies. etc. we DO get that resolution. Do I give a rat's ass about whether Ranma picks Akane or Shampoo or any of his other harem fiancees? No Don't we deserve a resolution to his gender issue & his father's bestiality? Does Ranma get cured or does he learn to embrace his female side? Ranma is most assuredly NOT ended. At best it's as I said-she left it in case she wanted to re-visit it. At worst she got stuck & like Clamp's X we will never see a resolution.
Sez who? Stuffed animals are referred to as "dolls". I've known people with frightengly humongous collections of stuffed animals. Do we even want to speculate on the people who draw Disney porn of Mickey & Minnie which I've come across at times? A fetish is a fetish be it toe-sucking or necrophelia. Some are just creepier than others that come off as maybe innocent even. The question was more general as to why we don't see more fetishes, not particularly those fetishes. The writer might have mentioned any other fetish & I suspect probably was thinking other fetishes because by their very nature fetishes tend to be unusual & even kinky if not something the average person would find downright horrid & nasty. By that nature, of course a person with a fetish might want it gratified, but is often very embarrased to admit stuff like a guy who might enjoy being dressed in a tutu & whipped by a gal in a Spiderman outfit. The unusual nature if the fetish is often the satisfying aspect. "Ooo, I'm so naughty!" And because they are so wildly varied, it IS hard to portray a majority of them because the audience would likely be small. Yes, a certain population out there might like water sports, but even among that group there are those who are happy with the bare minimum & those who want to go further to an extreme many of us would be appauled at. The Japanese do seem to have an amazing appetite for degradation, though, judging by the few games I've picked up. |
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Dragynstorm
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Well, I don't think this stuff really matter, honestly. I mean, if Takahashi has said, "Ranma is over." Then it's over. Maybe we don't like the ending, but if she says it's the ending, then it is. ...unfortunately. I would love to ask tons of mangaka to change their endings!  ;;
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Maidenoftheredhand
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You can disagree all you want but the fact remains that the Ranma 1/2 manga has definitely ended. Just because you do not think the ending is conclusive enough does not mean that Takahashi did not think of it as an ending. In fact in the final volume of the US manga she even states: "Thank you so much for reading all the way to the end. I am so glad that Ranma 1/2 was able to cross national boundaries and that people were able to enjoy it...." Not to mention on the last panel it clearly states Ranma 1/2- The End and a list of final credits. If people want to argue that this is not a satisfactory ending that's fine but to state the manga never ended and is on hiatus is false. |
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ArthurFrDent
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hide? not really, although being in my 40's I'm not as flamboyant with hobbies as I was in my 20's... Perhaps that's the difference as you get older. While I wouldn't buy a Gurren Lagann flag for a wall in my home, perhaps the garage over the workbench. On the other hand watercooler talk over what shows you've been watching is often odd, because I don't bother to act like I watch or care about CSI or the latest show about rich people behaving badly. Or heaven forbid an unreal show about reality. I do mention stories or concepts I am watching, and only later casually mention what media it is in, if at all. This is because I care about storytelling primarily, and how the story is told, and how all that grabs me. If it's live action, OK, if it's Anime, OK, or book, whatever. I think the people who know me in RL have noticed that about me, and so the idea of Anime isn't as off putting to them, because I describe it as a visual art form, no different from live action.
On the other hand, I rarely try to convert people in my own age range to watching anime, unless they seem able to suspend their disbelief. For me, the way the story is told isn't an issue. That is true if it's somebody telling a story aloud, or showing it in some way. I know a lot of people have difficulty with the story delivery system. If it's too different from expectation, they simply won't watch... Curiously on the other-other hand about what show reminding me why I like anime, I am currently enamoured with something that is just a happy story about some guy whose basic wish carries some unforseen consequence... called Ah! My Goddess. No clue why I bought sight unseen, but it's just a happy little show. In it I find little in the way of angst-a-thon, I have other shows for that. And yet there is just enough meaning, a care for the characters just enough, that I don't want bad things to happen to them. The story isn't laid out in such a way that I constantly want to mainline a whole disk at a time like Gurren Lagann, and while I know there are holes galore in the plot I'd like to see filled, but it doesn't BUG ME that they won't be... what more could I ask? Sometimes I think it's just us who worry over the execution of an anime, or how we never see the end we think the original writer intended, that impairs what we see on the screen. I know that Negima! as anime isn't what Akamatsu-sensei wrote. But the way it was interpreted to anime, I enjoyed that too, even when it hurt a little. Stories, like RL, vary. If there was something you liked about it, why isn't that enough? |
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CCSYueh
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Was it Mark Twain or Charles Dickens who once wrote a story & then blatantly admitted he was boxed in & encouraged the reader to complete the tale because he couldn't. Yes she finished the serialization. Didn't she do something similar with One Pound? (Haven't read it, so I don't know). I do know Mermaid was also left in such a manner that she could easily write more chapters should she choose to do so. My point is leaving it open ended allows her to return to the characters should she choose to. A lot of authors grow very attached to their characters while others seem to love killing them off. Perhaps she was fond enough of Ranma that she wanted to leave herself an opening to write more. If it were reported tomorrow that Ms Takahashi is revisiting Ranma, would you insist "No way! She ended it!!!"? If it were announced Ms Takahashi was going to do more Maison Ikkoku, would you scream "No! She finished that one!"? But if it were announced she's doing another InuYasha story, wouldn't your first thought be "Why?" because it did drag on & she did take care of some major points? (from what I've heard. Waiting for Viz to get there. I was beginning to think I'd make it to retirement first.) Yes, I fully agree an author has the right to do whatever to his/her own characters. If you don't like it, write a fan-fic, but why does the idea of Ms Takahashi maybe left Ranma open so she could return at a future date upset you so? I assume she's just really fond of them all & doesn't want the "closure" of an ending where everything is wrapped up. Don't you have stuff you say you'll get around to? Realistically you know you will never have time, but you keep in the back of your head you will? Why can't someone suggest Ms Takahashi might feel that way about Ranma? For all we know she has some personal vow no one knows about that she will finish Ranma & retire. Yeah, the moon might be made of cheese, too, but why can't you accept she might have future plans for a lot of her characters--a "Someday I'll write that" sort of thing? I know I've seen Akahori threaten to do more Saber Marionette. Don't know if it happened, but lots of authors have such ideas about favorite characters. And god knows we've been left hanging more than a few times. Some kick back up like DNAngel & others will probably never return (Legal Drug). While others take so mindboggling long, it can hardly be believed an author could stretch a story out that long & still keep it interesting (Dragon Knights) Oh, I do have all of the Ranma manga. I even went thru the stupid resizing where we had top wait months because Viz decided to shrink their titles to match the TP sizes which really seemed a mess with the Mermaid Series since the oversized volume I had didn't seem to match the smaller ones. I just recognize a cop-out ending. |
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Lunarose
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Sweet, Takahashi discussion. I love her works, completely agree. I was rather surprised when she ended Inuyasha like that. The anime... had to say, it was true. Inuyasha did have good hype at first, then it just slowly faded away... heck, it doesn't even appear on Adult Swim anymore, and it was a regular on there. Well, Inuyasha fans are satisfied, and the rest who just watched it just because they were waiting for Geass to pop up really don't care I suppose. Like I said, slowly fading away. One of the reasons why it was so popular at first was because it was made by Takahashi (Maison Ikkoku, Ranma 1/2, and definately famous Urusei Yatsura). I hope she makes another series soon, all her works are amazing. |
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GATSU
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Joe: I was responding to Zac's comment about not much Macross available to license.
Yueh: I don't think Area 88's characters are as bishonen-y as the stuff you normally like, so I'm ok with them, too. |
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Maidenoftheredhand
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There is a huge difference between the situation with Ranma and the situation with Mermaid Saga and One Pound Gospel. One Pound Gospel and Mermaid Saga were two side projects that Takahashi worked on and not one of her normal serilizations. One Pound Gospel was left without an ending for years but was recently finished. Mermaid Saga is still left in limbo and may or may not ever be finished. However Mermaid Saga and One Pound Gospel (before it was finished) never had the words "The End" at the end of the final volume that was printed (this has now probably changed for OPG but I am waiting for the final volume of that to come in December). These words "The End" however appear at the end of Ranma 1/2, Maison Ikkoku, and Inuyasha marking the last volume as the ending of the series. Is there a chance that Takahashi might write a sequel to Ranma. Well anything is possible but I would bet the chances are extremely slim. You say I am not willing to accept that she left Ranma 1/2 open to continue it someday. Well it seems you are not able to accept that Takahashi wanted to leave the ending open ended because well that is how she wanted to end it. If you want to think this ending is a cop out then go ahead but that doesn't mean that Takahashi herself was not satisfied because you were not. |
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DarkSaiyan00
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spoiler[im assuming this would mean that u haven't finished the manga, but the start of your response (What, you didn't like the ending to the TV series, where Naraku is finally defeated in a brilliantly-animated fight sequence, Inuyasha and Kagome get married and Miroku finally gets laid) was dead on for the ending.... lol] as for the answerfan, i dont hide fandom, but i dont glorify it. if something gets mentioned and has a relation to my fandom, ill speak out. |
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Berserkfury819
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So Zac, is Macross 7 actualy any good? I loved SDF-M and Macross Plus, but I couldn't really get past the first Macross 7 episode. Maybe it gets better, but it seemed more interested in pop music than giant robots.
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Hunter Sopko
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Good to see Zac's South Park fandom hasn't wavered.
Same. But we really have Mamoru Oshii to thank for really giving the anime version that extra kick. Between that and Patlabor, the man was great at comedy. Wish he'd do more. The show wasn't the same after he left. |
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ilkz
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how do you get the rabbit in mail box?
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