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LordByronius
ANN Columnist
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to be fair to the dude, he did mention that he wanted to pick it up when he had some "Christmas money" lying around for that explicit purpose. |
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dtm42
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Except it isn't Aniplex's fault that someone did not have the money on them at the time of release and had to wait until their family gave them money for Christmas so they could afford to buy it. I know jobs are hard to come by, or maybe the dude is still in school or university. Doesn't change a thing. It ain't Aniplex's fault for him not having the money, simple as that. There's no reason to be angry at them for that. Now, perhaps Aniplex could lower their pricing a bit and make more LEs to sell, but they've established a high-end business model that obviously works for them and changing it now would probably be very foolish. People will just have to adjust. Next time Aniplex releases a LE, even of a show that I don't like or outright hate, I'm buying ten copies. The more rabid the fanbase the better. I've saved up plenty of money, and this seems like as good an investment as any. |
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Sailor S
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Perhaps, but just because people are listing the Oreimo set at $2000 doesn't mean anyone's paying that. I would be interested to know at what price point people will pay for the product. I mean, if the angry kid had to wait until he got Christmas money, then chances are he ain't gonna be able to afford the set if you price it at double, so you won't get the sale anyways. I'd think the truly rabid fans pounce on the product and have it preordered months in advance. But, maybe you're right and there's a market to exploit there. |
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GATSU
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Again, I think y'all should just let these greed-heads go broke on these sets. Why encourage them to price-gouge you and lie about giving you a good deal, just because they add a bunch of unnecessary extra crap to the equation? They ain't no small start-up like Working Designs. That's why R.O.D. fans didn't buy the Blu-ray set, 'cus they knew they could just get used copies of the DVD a lot cheaper.
ANNZac: I have a feeling they seem a little more serious about Madoka, though, so the non-LEs will no doubt be in print for a while. |
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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Oh, I know that there's absolutely no way I'm going to get $2,000 for anything. Those people trying to flog stuff off for that much are dreaming.
But selling something for, say, 20-30% more than I paid for it (including shipping, which to New Zealand is going to be expensive) will probably be enough to satisfy me. A steady stream of income to supplement my usual wages is fine by me; I'm not so deluded that I think I can make an actual living off of this. |
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The King of Harts
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Please, this isn't 2005. This is 2012 (almost) and limited edition nowadays means LIMITED edition. You want me to list you all the Funimation limited editions that have sold out at the wholesale level? No need, because the answer is easy: All of them! You know why? Because they're limited! Hell, Darker than Black 2 sold out before it even hit its street date.
You mean the limited editions from a company that's been in anime for less than two years and only has a dozen releases are still on the market? SHOCKING! They should totally know everything there is to know about the R1 DVD and know exactly how many prints each show should get.[/sarcasm] You know what else is still on the market? The Gurren Lagann LE movies, which were Aniplex's first limited edition release here. You know what isn't still on the market? Oreimo, their most recent LE release. It seems Aniplex learns a lot faster than NISA. I can blame the OP. I can blame him for not being aware of how limited editions function today, as opposed to 5 years ago, which seems to be where his mind is. |
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Kohii
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Well, I now feel lucky for preordering Oreimo as soon as it was availabe. The postcards were fine. Except the one by Ume Aoki (the one who did the char. designs for Madoka) because he makes Manami look like a loli, which is very weird. The booklet was very meh. As far as Premium stuff goes, I'd rather go with NIS America's box sets. Even with the weird box shapes.
Also, I hardly remember seeing many gay people in my anime. Well, there was that Rose Arrancar guy in Bleach and the other old dude in Ga-Rei. And of couse, who can forget yuri champion Shirai Kuroko from Railgun. But that's as far as it goes. Although, to be honest, at first I thought Sunohara from Clannad was a little too flamboyant and possibly gay. And the strange infatuation of most male characters from BakaTest towards Hideyoshi isn't exactly being gay, is it? Really weird that I haven't picked up on it, or maybe it's just coincidence that I watch show that don't happen to have homosexual characters, perhaps. BTW, I almost never get a chance to say, but this is one of my two favorite features in this website (along with the guy who reviews figures). I have fun reading them every week. |
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dragon695
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Also a gay man who wholeheartedly agrees with your assessment. What is worse is the tendency in yaoi and in more mainstream series is the i'm only gay for you or i'm not gay or bi, I'm <name>-sexual type deals. I find that incredibly annoying. There are so many manga that cop out to this. Titles like No Bra were incredibly disappointing. I'm expecting Prunus Girl to be more of the same. Sure it is entertainment, but at some level the constant poor characterization is no better than a "sambo" characterization. It gives young readers of both genders the wrong idea and reinforces unfair, negative qualities that the majority of us do not share. So trying to write it off as "gag" really doesn't cut it. People are only human and tend to take things at face value even if it is just entertainment. Of course, for me yaoi is a double-edged sword. While I am grateful to have so much material of potential interest (at least on the surface) available, the notions that some women have about gay relationships drives me crazy. Don't even get me started on seme/uke, which they use to pigeonhole gay partners into heterosexual roles (as if that is how the majority of gay partnerships work). Of course, don't try to argue with the yaoi fangirls that their porn is insulting if not grossly offensive. To0 be honest, I really can't stand Bara either, since it tends to be targeted mostly at gays with bodybuilder and/or bear fetishes.
Loveless is ok, in some ways it can be endearing. I've wanted to check out Negima because of my soft-spot for male kemonomimi characters like Kotaro(I think is his name). Do you really enjoy it? I am somewhat hesitant because, while not being adverse to a little fanservice, endless straight otaku fanservice fests get irritating and can can be very distracting (not in a good way) from even the greatest of plot. As for other series, ironically it is some of the ultra-realistic period pieces in seinen manga that are the most favorable towards us. I suppose this is because prior to the Western Christian "interference" in the 19th century, teh ghey was not only "ok" but actively practiced by some rather notable Japanese historical figures. I wouldn't say old Japan was a bastion of gay rights, but at least it was more tolerated than currently in the west. There was this one about one of the Tokagawa shoguns, Yagyuu Hijouken Samon, that I really liked. Also, some seinen manga are serializing some contemporary pieces where the main character is openly gay. and is depicted rather favorably, like the one about a kickboxer, Seishun Sobbat. Though as far as most manga go, these are really the exceptions to the rule of mocking gay chars for laughs. I think it is kinda of funny because I have also enjoyed some of the shounen battle mangas where the lead has had to deal with some sort of terrible secret that he has been treated poorly for. For example, I really felt like I could relate to Naruto because his childhood experiences reflected mine in many ways. Its kind of funny, that. |
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White Lightning Alchemist
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Oh, man, I can relate to the Oreimo LE problem. See video games have "Limited Editions" all the time, and most of the time they're really easy to find weeks and even months after they come out. But, not the newest Zelda game, nope, if you didn't pre-order it your out of luck, now it's on eBay for 3 or 4 times the MSRP. Hunting for that for my brother was the worst Christmas shopping experience I've ever had...
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Youkai Warrior
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This ^ is absolutely correct. You've got it right Brian. I have met real gays and lesbians, and they are nothing like the "gay" or "lesbian" anime characters, (or carictures) that I have come across in anime. The homosexual characters that are often seen in anime are jokes, and are not what homosexuals in real life are like at all. @dragon695 Agree with everything that you said regarding homosexuality in anime and manga. You hit the nail on the head, and I thought your post was very explanatory. I have seen these yaoi fangirls and their weird, twisted notions of what homosexuality is, and they do get bats**t crazy is you tell them how wrong they are. |
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Sunday Silence
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"Progressive" as in the first (officially published/printed) Yaoi titles in the USA were marketed to MEN? Yeah, we still need major catching up. |
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Shenl742
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Let me clarify, when I said "the west is starting to feel a bit more progressive", I meant media in general (film, TV, comics), not that we're getting yaoi (which of course, is marked towards women). |
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Sewingrose
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As a bisexual woman, I can say that the treatment of LBGT characters in a lot of anime and manga titles are cringe inducing a fair amount of the time, and in more then one case were enough to make me drop a title or show if I just got angry instead of annoyed.
But portrayals like Leroy in Gurren Laggan or the Okamas in One Piece, don't strike me like that, because in series that are so over the top the sexualities is just another thing that is exaggerated, and it never really feels mean in a way a lot of other series like to be. Are the flaming stereotypes? Oh god yes. Are they still awesome badasses? Still yes. And I wouldn't really call the fact that there are more LBGT characters in Japenese media then more Western media a good thing when a lot of it is as punchlines or as stereotypes, excluding the few titles that seem to deal with the subject in a way that is serious or as serious as the rest of the way the story treats itself. As for yaoi/BL, a fair amount of people I know who are into BL, along with myself, HATE the seme/uke sterotypes that permeate so much of the BL manga, (that and the constant Love-Your-Rapist plot). I mostly try to ignore the stupid stuff for the few titles I really like, and hey that's what reviews are for right? I really don't care what anyone gets off to, mainly because I think a lot of porn in general can be disturbing if you try to think about it, and just write it off as Your Kink Is Not My Kink. I gotta agree with the sentiment, that if you want an Aniplex Limited Edition, you better not even wait for street-date, pre-order it the moment you can, and it's not their fault if you don't. |
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Redd the Sock
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Well, to be fair, limited editions are difficult to predict. I tripped over a stack of Skyrim limited editions (with the statue) at a Toys 'R Us while boxing day shopping, and have heard more than a few stories about limited editions of american DVDs that are harder to move than the standard editions. If it wasn't Aniplex and it's infamous "japanese pricing model" I'd say it isn't unreasonable to assume a more niche Otaku bait show might still have some availibility after only two months, particulalry when Fullmetal Alchemist: Conquorer of Shambala's limited edition is STILL on sale at rightstuf.
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amagee
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I only pre-ordered the 1st Puella Magi Madoka Magica box from Aniplex. This makes me wonder whether or not I should pre-order the others. Or...maybe I should pre-order a couple more copies to sell at a profit later?
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