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Zac
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I'm speaking from experience here. I have realistic expectations. I always, always try my hardest, but I am also realistic about it. Who knows, maybe they'll want to sit down with us. I'll find out soon enough. |
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Redxr
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Wow, just wow. I didn't think anime elitists still existed.You want him to prove his credibility by making a pedophilia anime into a live action movie? Then you go on to call Gits and Cowboy Bebop trash when they are head, shoulders and hell, body over anything Kodomo could ever be...you're a strange fellow. Then again, you like "Kidomo" no Jikan. |
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MarzGurl
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Hey, hey...
...all I'm saying is that the only anime movie I've seen recently that's actually been accurate to its source material is Speed Racer. I WANT movies to be more like that, even if for some amazing reason everybody hated it. The only reason I said I wanted to see Leonardo's anime collection was because I'm honestly curious, because Leo COMPLETELY does not strike me as being an anime fan. I'll take his word for it, though. And, pardon me for saying so, but I don't think that asking a movie to be mildly accurate to its original anime/manga counterpart is in the SLIGHTEST bit elitist. If he makes a good movie otherwise, then good for him. I just won't think of it as Akira. Just like I considered Final Fantasy: The Spirits within to be a "good movie". I just would not consider it to be a Final Fantasy (despite the fact that it was FF's CREATOR, Sakaguchi, who directed the thing). Otherwise, it was a great Sci-Fi film. Can you understand why we MIGHT be curious about Leonardo's fandom? I was a 5th-grader when Titanic came out, and have since then had this "My Heart Will Go On" image of him, so thinking of him as a "big anime fan" would be a very, VERY interesting turn-around. THAT is why I am curious. |
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GATSU
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Zac: Well, I do know that the guy who remade "The Day the Earth Stood Still" is probably the worst choice for Akira, considering how much he's borrowing from it, without actually making it interesting. That music video guy from Kanye West's video did a damn good job, though. I'm not into that Irish Spielberg-wannabe, Danny Boyle, either, but he'd probably be perfect for the production design. My pick as director, though, would probably be Chris Nolan.
Marz: You want your anime adaptations to be about people talking for no reason whatsoever, instead of actually focusing on what makes the material popular?  Also, Leo's done "edgy" before Titanic. See Basketball Diaries.
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Redxr
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Marz- I completely understand everything you're saying and actually agree with it for the most part. Personally, I don't have that image of Leo but that doesn't mean I think his company will do a terrific job with Akira. Hell I doubt even Otomo himself could do it and I respect the man from the bottom of my heart. Simply put, I don't think the movie will be any good because the source material is infinitely more complex than what can be told in an hour and a half. Akira, the anime didn't do the Manga justice but it succeeded in several things. Not only did blow us away with incredible animation that still to this day is beautiful to watch but it also broke barriers for the anime industry here in the west.
I don't see this movie doing anything but slicing up a story we all love and throwing some CG at it. It has no reason to be made, no purpose. At least for the anime fans. Anyways, the reason I had posted was that nonsense about Gits and Cowboyb Bebop being "trash" and Kodomo being something to write home about. |
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yojimboray
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The only way to do Ninja Scroll properly, in my opinion, is to go the Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon route- Japanese actors with Hollywood production values. However, since this would be a subtitled movie it would be risky, at least here in the U.S.
I can't see how you could do it any other way, though, and not be cheesy. |
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Animehermit
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It seems to me, that it would seem foolish for any artist to dismiss any medium of storytelling, thats why it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that DiCaprio is an anime fan, why would you dismiss any medium, simply because its from another country?
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MarzGurl
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GATSU: "You want your anime adaptations to be about people talking for no reason whatsoever, instead of actually focusing on what makes the material popular?"
I'm... not sure what you're getting at. If you're referring to my Speed Racer reference, I seem to recall that a lot of the movie was about racing, which I THOUGHT was the point of Speed Racer. Any other talking in that movie... well... it had to have a plot, right? I thought it worked. Redxr: I agree, the manga is far too complex, and you're right, even the original anime movie did no kind of justice to the manga. Even if the movie is absolute Hollywood magic, it won't be able to cover the depth of the manga. Let me give some other examples, then - anyone ever see 300? Ever read the comic? The movie is FANTASTIC, and SPOT ON to most scenes in the original graphic novel. Zack Snyder did a good job. Zack also directed the upcoming movie adaptation of Watchmen. Having read the comics and having watched the trailers and looked up some more info on the movie production, this looks like it's again going to be a very accurate adaptation of the source material. Alan Moore, writer of Watchmen, said that the extremely detailed sets and perfect lighting allowed him to see his creation come to life, that everything was perfect, and that he was thrilled to see this come together. When the original creator of the original source material says that he is pleased with what is happening, I know it will be VERY pleasing. That should ALSO be pleasing to the fans. tl;dr - Accurate, good adaptations of previously animated features or comics are CERTAINLY possible. It's just few and far between, and I'm only HOPING this will be good, too, because I have nothing to go on right now. |
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GATSU
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Marz: No, most of the Speed Racer movie is about the main characters talking about their effing race-car businesses, with reaction shots from the peanut gallery, and a pointless fight scene and some stupid in-joke about shonen anime on the telly. The actual races get only slightly more screen time than the actual fights in DBZ.
As for Watchmen, they couldn't include one of the characters, and Alan Moore has [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film)]yet[/url] to officially endorse the film. Last edited by GATSU on Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:01 am; edited 2 times in total |
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MarzGurl
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Fine, I'll have to link you to the footage I found of him praising it later (as I am at work right now and can't).
Either way, I think the missing of one character might be a bit nit-picky, and either way things are still looking far more accurate than half of the animated/comic adaptations I've seen over the past few years. I mean, all I'm saying is, I'm not asking for much. Just accuracy to character behavior, most looks, a nod in the direction of some outfits, and the general overtone of the movie. Some movies have not been successful in recreating that. I still say that what I ask is not elitist. Just appreciation for the source material. |
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x1onexwo1fx
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After watching Gangs of New York, Blood Diamond, The Departed, and the pair of YouTube videos he was involved with that sent out the message to get people to vote, I can't help but have some respect for the guy. Not sure he's exactly the best choice for these adaptions, but if he wants to stay faithful to the source material, then it can't be too bad, right?
I saw Akira four years ago. I don't remember a thing. |
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enurtsol
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Only a handful of anime fans have even touched the Akira manga anyways, and most haven't seen the 2-decade-old movie (if even many veterans haven't seen it, what chance do post-Pokemon neophytes have?). So for all intents and purposes, this will be new (kinda like the movie 300 - most people didn't even know the comics exist).
Even if the live-action film copies the anime frame-by-frame, it will still fall far short just because of how much the anime compressed the manga. Yet, many anime fans would probably praise it just for simply doing that, go figure. No, forget about the anime movie. We've moved beyond that. If the live-action film wants to stand on its own, it has to do what the anime didn't do. |
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RogueJedi86
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Just so ya know, Alan Moore has never approved of any adaptation of his comics, even when they were good films overall. Moore not approving of the Watchmen movie basically means nothing. |
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fighterholic
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Then what the hell is Fangoria? |
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GATSU
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That's because there aren't any good adaptations of his work! But I'm hoping that Watchmen changes that losing streak. |
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