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NEWS: Viz to Stream Naruto on Naruto.com Within 1 Week of Japanese Airing

This just better have good quality and no dubbing.But after all if there is no dubbing and they make naruto shuppiden uncut dvd box sets then buying the dvds might be almost useless.

That's pretty cool, but I wonder what the point of companies complaining about fansubs is then, if they're going to do the exact same thing. What, is the only difference advertisement? Why can't they just use the fansubbers and have them display their sponsors' ads? It'd be cheaper than hiring translators and subbers themselves, and let's face it, people watch fansubs for the speed AND for the subbing style, and these official subs aren't going to have extensive liner notes or whatever.

Oh well. I'm not complaining. It's a step in the right direction.

minakichan wrote:

That's pretty cool, but I wonder what the point of companies complaining about fansubs is then, if they're going to do the exact same thing. What, is the only difference advertisement? Why can't they just use the fansubbers and have them display their sponsors' ads? It'd be cheaper than hiring translators and subbers themselves, and let's face it, people watch fansubs for the speed AND for the subbing style, and these official subs aren't going to have extensive liner notes or whatever. Oh well. I'm not complaining. It's a step in the right direction.

It's simple. Fansubbers are piracy distributors they can't control. They had no permission and have been asked to stop many times. They arrogantly lie and say "if we are asked to stop, we will". They never do until they get a legal notice or simply just don't stop. They add personal messages in, occasionally add or change things because they think they are "funny". They are more harsh language for no reason. Imagine with this level of arrogance and lack of control... The agreement would work for a week until they had creative difference or the fansubbers realized there is no incentive not to break the law other than the law and respect of the company who owns it.

The difference is they own it, they need to control it. That said, it sounds like "within 1 hour, worldwide" is the crunchyroll deal for paid users, and "within 1 week" is for the various other sites. These stories seem to imply Naruto Shippuden is coming to hulu, joust, naruto.com etc, etc. Yeah ads may be a part of it, so you know... they can be paid for their work. But there will be other differences, mostly related to control and professionalism.

Sorry kiddies, I don't expect the F-Bomb to make anymore repeat appearances.

Anyone who has checked out Hulu.com knows that streaming can be surprisingly high quality these days. Is it the same thing as a well-encoded H264 video? Not quite, but it's getting close at this point. I also feel the issue may be moot as a lot of the fansub consumers are watching on Youtube and similar sites which re-encode/downscale to such a degree that it'd be hard to find something worse looking.

That's exactly what I was thinking. It's much easier to control people who actually work for the company then somebody who would likely be using this as an additional source of income. It's pretty unlikely that a fansubber would be offered enough to be able to live off of, so they wouldn't feel as compelled to follow company directions as an actual employee.

Are they dubbing Shippuden? I went to the website and watched the trailer and they have english voices!

Well excuse me for wanting to buy something.

Hell, when I even mentioned BTing the shows, that's not even going to be an issue anyway because most fansubers, opposite what people might belive do leave things alone when they're licenced and airing uncut.

So realy I'm just up the creak.

But whatever, the US has it yay the us, leave us Europeons with our faces to the ground and stamp the back of our heads into the mud with your gloromeican boots.

tempest wrote:

There are definitely fansubbers and fansub consumers who whine and moan excessively. But I'm pretty sure Datebayo, which is the only fansub group that really matters when it comes to Naruto, will cease working on the title in the very near future.

*sigh* I was thinking this too. Kudos to them for sticking to unlicenced series, but if DB stops fansubbing Shippuuden, what happens to those of us outside the US/Canada region?

This is fantastic news, and I'll be perfectly happy to watch the free subbed version available through a LEGITIMATE source. The one-week thing is probably a calculated move, the news post just above this on on the front page said TV Tokyo will have episodes released about an hour afterwards for a monthly fee, right? So they probably have an agreement for Funimation to wait so as not to take buisness from that. (TV Tokyo will also do the 'free after a week' thing too.)

I really hope people will cooperate and make this work, Funimation is really and truly trying everything in their power to work with the fans and still make it work for their wallets too, we should be helping them not thwarting them! Ultimately we've got the same goal, right? We both want Naruto (or really whatever anime it is) to succeed.

I had to calm down a bit before posting... I can't believe this is happening. It's like the one of the best dreams comes true. Viz, of all companies, is doing everything right (with Naruto). I'm just so happy right now, you have no idea...

Just one question. It seems like they'll have only streamed the first 16 episodes before they get to 90-whatever on January 15. So, are we supposed to already know the story between episodes 16 and 90? Will Viz's release of the manga be at the equivalent of Shippuden episode 90 or so by January 15?

EDIT: Also, just checked out Naruto.com. There's a preview for Shippuden with... the dub voices? What? Why? I guess they just dubbed the two lines there, but still, that's kind of weird, since the episodes they'll be streaming will be subbed.