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NEWS: Megaupload Site Shut Down Partly Due to Fruits Basket Anime


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ArsenicSteel



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:26 pm Reply with quote
It looks like a lesson only in hindsight. The same sort of lesson someone would preach about if a person's brand of physical media became unreadable because cheap materials were used in production.
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R315r4z0r



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:42 pm Reply with quote
What about the people who payed for the service and weren't using it for illegal purposes? What happens to them? Are they compensated?
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Mimas



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:56 am Reply with quote
Teriyaki Terrier wrote:

Five-six years ago, I heard that Toei had licensed Dragon Quest: Dai's Big Adventure. Now this could have easily been a rumor, but at that time, I did Toei's US site and I saw the title there. Naturally thought the series was about to be licensed or at the very least, provide some detail on that series.

I never came across that rumor, nor did I ever see Dai on the Toei page in anything other than mentioned as one of the things that they originally produced in Japan. Out of curiosity, you happen to remember where you heard about that rumor?

Teriyaki Terrier wrote:

After all that time, even after the manga concluded (which I was lucky enough to actually have a chance to actually read (just like the anime, the manga was never licensed and I don't think it ever will be.), but still no news at all.

I assume you are talking about the fan translation here, since the manga was never released here, and it finished its run in Japan back in 1996? Timing wise, it almost sounds like you somehow got confused with when Toei was releasing "Beet the Vandel Buster" under Illumitoon. That was about the same time frame your talking about, and the manga is by the same people who did Dai and it came out in America (up to its current seemingly eternal hiatus).

Teriyaki Terrier wrote:

I remember reading and seeing screen shot images of the only Dragon Quest (back then, before Enix merged with Square Soft, the US name for Dragon Quest was Dragon Warrior) but I never once had the chance to watch the actual Dragon Warrior anime on TV when the series aired then.

I am not even sure if the Dragon Warrior ( I think it was part of the Captain N show) ever even made it to VHS and I sincerely doubt the series ever made it to DVD format.

Back in the early 90's when that was on I was a fan of Dragon Warrior and never even knew there was a show on TV since it was one of those anime that they stuck on early in the morning on non-major channels. But I'm quite sure that the Dragon Warrior anime was shown separate from Captain N (which I did watch). Only 13 episodes were released and considering there is a rumor that it was canceled in America for failing to have Toriyama's name in the credits I don't think it was ever legally released for home video here. On the other hand the series was released on DVD in Japan so you can pick it up that way. Which is better than you can say for Dai which only had a video rental line release back at the time and an LD of one of the movies.

Teriyaki Terrier wrote:

At least with Digimon, the anime portion of that series has been mostly licensed in released in DVD format. The same can't be said about any Dragon Quest anime (I think there is only two Dragon Quest anime series, at least that I know of).


I would like to see Digimon Xros Wars since Riku Sanjo, the author of Dai, is currently working on it. But I don't believe the first series of that has had any legal release here. (Maybe I should just watch the second series on Crunchyroll anyways and call it a day).
While Dai and Abel (aka Dragon Warrior) are the only series there are a few short movies based off of other manga. Emblem of Roto had a movie, and there are a few slime movies based off the manga that ran in V Jump.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:42 pm Reply with quote
peachsncreamsoda wrote:
... Can't say i've ever used MU, but I know of tons of people that did.

I bet it was all that music that was on there that actually is what moved this all forward. I'm constantly seeing stuff on YT with videos of songs and links to MU where you could get it for free....

And personally, i'm thinking anything anime related was rather small and pretty insignificant compared to any of the other things that were on there... so I doubt there was a bunch of anime on there that the people were really all too worried about.


Megavideo was used heavily by leach streaming sites, so lots of people who thought they were watching anime on "Hey! Wow! Free! Anime!" were actually streaming it off of the Megaupload family of sites.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:54 pm Reply with quote
Mimas wrote:

Teriyaki Terrier wrote:

I remember reading and seeing screen shot images of the only Dragon Quest (back then, before Enix merged with Square Soft, the US name for Dragon Quest was Dragon Warrior) but I never once had the chance to watch the actual Dragon Warrior anime on TV when the series aired then.

I am not even sure if the Dragon Warrior ( I think it was part of the Captain N show) ever even made it to VHS and I sincerely doubt the series ever made it to DVD format.

Back in the early 90's when that was on I was a fan of Dragon Warrior and never even knew there was a show on TV since it was one of those anime that they stuck on early in the morning on non-major channels. But I'm quite sure that the Dragon Warrior anime was shown separate from Captain N (which I did watch). Only 13 episodes were released and considering there is a rumor that it was canceled in America for failing to have Toriyama's name in the credits I don't think it was ever legally released for home video here.


We used to have a VHS copy of those 13 US TV eps. Definitely not part of Captain N, which we all watched just for Princess Lana anyways.
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PurpleWarrior13



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:45 pm Reply with quote
Can't say I'm too sad to see MegaVideo go. It was only a matter of time.

I didn't have one, but I'm sure there were several who had payed accounts on their site (very expensive ones at that). I'm curious what'll happen to them.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:17 am Reply with quote
PurpleWarrior13 wrote:
Can't say I'm too sad to see MegaVideo go. It was only a matter of time.

I didn't have one, but I'm sure there were several who had payed accounts on their site (very expensive ones at that). I'm curious what'll happen to them.

If you have a paid account with them, you're an unsecured creditor. If they go bankrupt, which seems likely if they lose the case, then unsecured creditors are unlikely to get anything back.
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stonehand



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:29 am Reply with quote
Teriyaki Terrier wrote:
This was only a matter of time Megaupload, I'd say that is fairly correct.

Up next, bit torrent.



Which will not happen. Bittorrent has already had their day in court, and they passed. Their software, although able to be used to download/upload illegal content, was judged to be allowed, as many legit companies use it for transfering large files. It is a software program/ protocol.

For example,the vodo free to share movies website uses bittorrent to distribute their product.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:32 pm Reply with quote
Techdirt has an interesting article that raises various points about the whole thing. Thought I'd share. Linky!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:15 pm Reply with quote
Mad_Scientist wrote:
Techdirt has an interesting article that raises various points about the whole thing. Thought I'd share. Linky!


That is interesting, which also led me to: this If it works for music, surely it could work for anime/movies etc?
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Sheleigha



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:44 pm Reply with quote
FileSonic says this now:

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All sharing functionality on FileSonic is now disabled. Our service can only be used to upload and retrieve files that you have uploaded personally.

If this file belongs to you, please login to download it directly from your file manager


It worked yesterday, but the other sites are really getting scared now! Wow! Years ago, they would've said "screw it, let's continue and we won't get caught..."
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kanechin



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:02 pm Reply with quote
First megaupload dies, now filesonic trys to save it's arse.
Besides SOPA/PIPA we have ACTA/PCFIPA, first one know as the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement which allows the US and any other country that supports it to record every thing you do online which means no more posting youtube vids with licensed content, no more looking for porn, no more anime downloads. You can't even make a purchase without allowing them access to your credit card number. The second one, the Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act is the same thing but only in the US and it's likely to pass because of it's claims to fight child porn and no one famous or in the government will fight it if it means being labeled a supporter of cp. If you guys help out by spreading the truth about these acts that would be great for I value my privacy in all forms.

Link to explain PCFIPA better, sorry if linking isn't allowing.
http://lifehacker.com/5825746/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-internet-snooping-bill-and-what-you-can-do-about-it?utm_source=Lifehacker+Newsletter&utm_campaign=7b7079387f-UA-142218-1&utm_medium=email
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:10 pm Reply with quote
st_owly wrote:
Mad_Scientist wrote:
Techdirt has an interesting article that raises various points about the whole thing. Thought I'd share. Linky!


That is interesting, which also led me to: this If it works for music, surely it could work for anime/movies etc?


Anime & Movies rely on a broader group of artists and craftspeople working together, and cannot rely on performances to an audience attracted by the released work as their primary source of income. So the business models that work for music do not automatically work for movies.
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Charred Knight



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:13 pm Reply with quote
st_owly wrote:
Mad_Scientist wrote:
Techdirt has an interesting article that raises various points about the whole thing. Thought I'd share. Linky!


That is interesting, which also led me to: this If it works for music, surely it could work for anime/movies etc?


It's the difference in money, music is relatively cheap to make and generally needs at most something like 5 people to do. With anime you need about a hundred people to make it, and it cost millions of dollars to make just 13 episodes of it.

Movies especially blockbuster movies cause from 10 million (for a low budget theatrical release) to about 200 million for a blockbuster movie. To make that much money Megaupload's profits would have to be in the billions.

If the business model changes that most likely anime production will drastically shrink to a business model similar to american animation, where the anime is mainly created to sell merchandise.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:30 pm Reply with quote
If your first response to someone who lost years of work because their file locker was taken down by government agents is, "You should have backed up elsewhere", you might possibly have lack-of-empathy issues. That's something you post after you give condolences. Hope that helps.
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