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NEWS: Yu-Gi-Oh! Lawsuit Settled Between 4Kids, ADK, TV Tokyo

Good Point. But they've dodged so many bullets that it feels they have the devil's luck on their side that it's starting to get ridiculous , cause they were massively desperate to keep the license for the series.

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It feels like the industry is in some kinda Twilight Zone of some kind , and it's DEFINITELY NOT a good thing.

I really don't want to go to this, but one big reason why 4Kids still lives is pretty frickin' simple.

Americans are idiots.

We cringe at the sight of an exposed nipple. We get scared at two men kissing each other. We are xenophobic in ways that would make the Japanese look tolerant. We believe in insane conspiracy theories. We think everything is out to get us. We sue each other over LETTERS. We abuse Freedom of Speech in ways the founding fathers would never dream about and don't suffer the consequences.

And yet we somehow still survive that would make Charles Darwin reevaluate his Theories of Evolution.

Well, maybe America needs to change, or it will not thrive in the modern world. People, species, countries, and societies that refuse to change their attitudes and views tend to die out, as is shown with the principles of Darwinism. But then the question is how to change society. You do that through educating the masses and exposing them to new things.

Also, I think Darwin's theories of evolution are mostly accurate, and that the only reason America is surviving is because America still has many people who promote change, education, and stepping outside familiar territory. The problem comes from the people who oppose progress and development. These people luckily are not the majority, but they are large enough to have an apparent influence on our culture/society.

However, 4kids still screws the rules of Darwinism, something that is still irritates my mind

jr0904 wrote:

Good Point. But they've dodged so many bullets that it feels they have the devil's luck on their side that it's starting to get ridiculous , cause they were massively desperate to keep the license for the series. .... It feels like the industry is in some kinda Twilight Zone of some kind , and it's DEFINITELY NOT a good thing.

I really don't want to go to this, but one big reason why 4Kids still lives is pretty frickin' simple.

Americans are idiots.

We cringe at the sight of an exposed nipple. We get scared at two men kissing each other. We are xenophobic in ways that would make the Japanese look tolerant. We believe in insane conspiracy theories. We think everything is out to get us. We sue each other over LETTERS. We abuse Freedom of Speech in ways the founding fathers would never dream about and don't suffer the consequences.

And yet we somehow still survive that would make Charles Darwin reevaluate his Theories of Evolution.

kaiser11492 wrote:

Well, maybe America needs to change, or it will not thrive in the modern world. People, species, countries, and societies that refuse to change their attitudes and views tend to die out, as is shown with the principles of Darwinism. But then the question is how to change society. You do that through educating the masses and exposing them to new things. Also, I think Darwin's theories of evolution are mostly accurate, and that the only reason America is surviving is because America still has many people who promote change, education, and stepping outside familiar territory. The problem comes from the people who oppose progress and development. These people luckily are not the majority, but they are large enough to have an apparent influence on our culture/society.

Heh, homogeneous, very traditional Japan would actually be more resistant to changes. Heck, the Japanese Supreme Court just ruled schools requiring teachers and students to sing the national anthem "Kimigayo" is constitutional. Yeah, freedom of speech or non-speech our ass.

As for Chaotic, I was never a fan, and was too old at that point to know any who were. I watched a couple episodes. It seemed like a knock-off of Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh! (especially YGO). I know nothing about that series' popularity. Although I can tell you that the card game was created by a Danish company.

jr0904 wrote:

All of the good companies like Geneon & CPM goes six feet under , yet some how, some way, god forsaken awful companies like 4kids and Nelvana still breathe by an inch

Nelvana's doing decently. They've only ever licensed 3 anime titles (only one of which could be considered "good", and another was a co-production), and have created some great animated series over the years. They also market Fairly Odd Parents outside of America. Yes, their dub of CCS sucked, but it was actually KidsWB that edited the hell out of it (Nelvana actually dubbed all 70 episodes, although it was still edited, just not AS edited. Hey, it's still better than KidsWB, and at least we got an uncut subtitled release from Geneon, and bilingual releases of the two movies, one of which had a GREAT faithful dub).

well duh their dubs of CCS sucks as hell.

well duh their dubs of CCS sucks as hell. Which was why they stuck to kids series like Bakguan & Beyblade. and are still hated as much as 4kids in the early 2000's.

I must've stepped into an alternate world because I remember enjoying the Carcaptors dub

well duh their dubs of CCS sucks as hell.

Extinction doesn't happen over night, even Darwin knew that. When the asteroid hit the planet 65 million years ago it still took several years for the all the big giant dinosaurs to finally snuff it. I consider this as just a delay of the inevitable. They either evolve for survival, or die.

Evolution actually has nothing to do with what you described, Social Darwinism does, but SD is a crock of racist bullshit and I'm pretty sure you aren't racist.

Also, the Japanese are way more xenophobic than we will ever be. Ever seen how 2chan blames EVERYTHING on Koreans? Ever notice how Japan is like 97% Japanese, with extremely strict immigration laws? That's because they went them damn foreigners out. Japan (and East Asia in general) is ridiculously xenophobic at worst.

As for how United States's society, of course many things are edited for the intended demograph. But, that's the exact problem, it is stereotyping who the audience is going to be and expecting said audience (or their parents) to buy. But, from time to time, a series will be popular to the non-intended demograph audience more than its intended audience.

or have to do some kind of coup de tat and remove the monster known as Alfred H Kahn

or just stop licensing anime altogether which i think would be the best for everyone BUT I highly doubt that would happen.

jr0904 wrote:

well duh their dubs of CCS sucks as hell.

I believe most of the hatred for the dub came not from the performance of the voice actors/actresses, but rather that it was a scrambled series order and incomplete. The company, Pioneer at the time, tried to turn the show into a male demographic rather than the intended female demographic.

I know Japan is one of the most xenophobic countries in the world. I just find it ironically funny how Japan is WAY more conservative and traditional than the US, yet Japan is so loose with what they can show.

That's WB and Nelvana, not Pioneer. WB wanted a boy-show, so Nelvana accommodated them. IIRC, Nelvana kept the show girl-centric in Canada.