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NEWS: ADV Films Announces Madlax

manuverse wrote:

ADV has plenty of customers willing to pay for their anime no matter how pricey or stingy each volume is. The original Eva DVDs no extras (other than character profiles and trailers) and a very high price tag yet i still forked over the money to buy the expensive perfect collection. Basically if the fans like something enough they will buy it.

*cringe* Such...expensive...boxset.. *dies* Luckly I was fortunate to have several friends that had Eva eps (same with escaflone, gundam wing, and a few others), none of them had the entire seires, but between all of them, I was able to watch the whole series. I have the second dvd to the movie, but that's all I'm willing to get, eva wise. I know someone who has the directors cut, so I'm going to borrow and watch that. If I can't find it at a desent price at stores I resort the the "underground" anime world. Sorry, but I'm not crazy. The only Boxsets I have are a Fusighi Yuugi boxset (vhs, only half the series subbed, friend has rest dubbed) and the steal angel kurimi boxset, both were $40 when I got them. If it's too expensive for my taste I resort to friends and online. I man be a kid, but I don't want to go hog wild over anime and make my parents spend a ton. Usually opportunites present themselves when I look online *cough cough* love hina and hellsing *cough cough*So if I wait and look, I usually find what I want to watch, or just ask my friend who can get almost any anime that I ask for *cough cough* DNAngel *cough cough*

Steventheeunuch wrote:

Even then, the games were not done by Beetrain. Praising and complimenting the games is not only off topic, but rather pointless, as we're talking about the Anime. I don't care if it's setting the games up, a series should have the ability to stand on its own (which .hack did not) and not rely on a game that's been spread across 4 discs. Also, last time I checked, playing a game was for fun. If it's boring, repetetive, and doesn't even have good eye candy (which they don't), then it fails at being a game.

Ok, sure they weren't made by Beetrain, but they connect to SIGN. There are 3 events, one in Mutation (2) one in Outbreak (3) and one quarintine (4) That have the SIGN characters in it. The first one is a shadow event where you get to see sence fom SIGN CG in the game. Second is another event were you have to find the remnants of the SIGN characters. They say lines from the show, and give you items such as Tsukasa give you his wand, etc. (Remember they are remaining data, so they aren't actually there.) The last one is at the end of quarintine. YOU CAN ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME WITH THE SIGN CHARACTERS!! (Also there's this deal with Sora in the 3rd game, but I don't feel like explaining it) If that isn't enough eveidence that the games should be mentioned with SING, I don't know what it, but if you had played the games you would know this already. It may not look like it, but SIGN plays a great role in the games, so it is perfectly logical to include in anything you say about .hack.

I said it earlier. I actually couldn't care about THE GAME, I cared about the storyline. I'm sorry if I didn't have the power to chose what type of media they wanted to put the GOOD BULCK of the storyline it. I buy it, play it, satisfy my curiousity, and move on. Since I'm 15, buying things doesn't affect me yet, so I couldn't care less how much it cost....even though I tried to buy them at like Target for like $30 if I could, and I got mutation for $14 and Blockbuster, but whatever. It seems like you don't want people, especially me as I am a juvenille, to explore something that they are interested in, and to actually have a curiosity in the first place. Haven't you ever wanted to know something so bad that you would go to any lengths to find out what it is, and to let your mind understand? That is what .hack did for me. It lets people thing outside of the box so to speak, and get into a world that could possibly one day be like our own.

AuraShadow wrote:

Steventheeunuch wrote: Even then, the games were not done by Beetrain. Praising and complimenting the games is not only off topic, but rather pointless, as we're talking about the Anime. I don't care if it's setting the games up, a series should have the ability to stand on its own (which .hack did not) and not rely on a game that's been spread across 4 discs. Also, last time I checked, playing a game was for fun. If it's boring, repetetive, and doesn't even have good eye candy (which they don't), then it fails at being a game. Ok, sure they weren't made by Beetrain, but they connect to SIGN. There are 3 events, one in Mutation (2) one in Outbreak (3) and one quarintine (4) That have the SIGN characters in it. The first one is a shadow event where you get to see sence fom SIGN CG in the game. Second is another event were you have to find the remnants of the SIGN characters. They say lines from the show, and give you items such as Tsukasa give you his wand, etc. (Remember they are remaining data, so they aren't actually there.) The last one is at the end of quarintine. YOU CAN ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME WITH THE SIGN CHARACTERS!! (Also there's this deal with Sora in the 3rd game, but I don't feel like explaining it) If that isn't enough eveidence that the games should be mentioned with SING, I don't know what it, but if you had played the games you would know this already. It may not look like it, but SIGN plays a great role in the games, so it is perfectly logical to include in anything you say about .hack. I said it earlier. I actually couldn't care about THE GAME, I cared about the storyline. I'm sorry if I didn't have the power to chose what type of media they wanted to put the GOOD BULCK of the storyline it. I buy it, play it, satisfy my curiousity, and move on. Since I'm 15, buying things doesn't affect me yet, so I couldn't care less how much it cost....even though I tried to buy them at like Target for like $30 if I could, and I got mutation for $14 and Blockbuster, but whatever. It seems like you don't want people, especially me as I am a juvenille, to explore something that they are interested in, and to actually have a curiosity in the first place. Haven't you ever wanted to know something so bad that you would go to any lengths to find out what it is, and to let your mind understand? That is what .hack did for me. It lets people thing outside of the box so to speak, and get into a world that could possibly one day be like our own.

what the HELL are you going on about? You are going way off topic. So what if you can play the with sign characters? The show is bad, the game isnt good, THEREFORE IT IS A FAILIURE.

Since when did I say I didn't want you to explore? By all means, do so. However, what I would like you to do is actually get things right! You said that a Beetrain Anime is something deep, compelling and what not, which do not contain magic, monsters or mecha. Yet, despite being an online game, the .hack series contains a good deal of magic and monsters. Beetrain have also produced several titles containing some of the Ms. plus, Madhouse, Ghibli, and what not have also produced several real-life, down to earth anime. So your definition of "beetrain" anime is WRONG.

So why the hell are you going on about the games? as it is, Beetrain did not produce any of the .hack series. They simply provided Animation (which is often static and boring), and also did animation on the relative OAVs. They did produce Twilight, which I have to say contains somewhat less "depth" (aside from faux lolicon-incest, it's actually somewhat reasonable to watch), unlike its predecessor. They did not participate in the creation of the games. Even if the .hack games WERE good, and if the sign anime WASNT boring, it still would not be due to any credit of Beetrain.

Since all Beetrain series seem to share the common characteristics of being slow moving and dialogue heavy, this is pertinent to the discussion of Madlax. Now, let me guess, it was boring because there wasn't enough action for you. That seems to be the major reason, not enough action. I've said it before, I know I'll have to say it again, the level of action should never be viewed as such an important aspect of any form of media be it a book, movie, or television series. The level of action should never be viewed as being just as important as character developement or story, and if it is then God help us all. If its an action movie, if the word "action" is written right on the box itself, then I'd understand how a lack of it would be a detriment.

Andre Linoge wrote:

Since all Beetrain series seem to share the common characteristics of being slow moving and dialogue heavy, this is pertinent to the discussion of Madlax. Now, let me guess, it was boring because there wasn't enough action for you. That seems to be the major reason, not enough action. I've said it before, I know I'll have to say it again, the level of action should never be viewed as such an important aspect of any form of media be it a book, movie, or television series. The level of action should never be viewed as being just as important as character developement or story, and if it is then God help us all. If its an action movie, if the word "action" is written right on the box itself, then I'd understand how a lack of it would be a detriment.

Just because something is slow moving and has way too much dialogue doesn't mean that it's inherently better than something that moves quickly. It just means that it's slow moving and has a lot of dialogue. Things like 2001: A Space Odyssey and One Hundred Years of Solitude moved very slowly, but that was the only way to tell those (excellent) stories. Then again, I enjoyed Battle Royale a hell of a lot more than Gulliver's Travels - which I've never been able to get through because it was slow and didn't have to be.