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v1cious
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 3:15 pm
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they really should let this die. the series was fine the way it ended. heaven help us if Lelouch is still alive.
EDIT oops, sorry mods
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Unit 03.5-ish
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 3:21 pm
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the series caught flack for having a rather unlikable protagonist, yes? In much the same way people debate the choice of Light as DN's focus. So with a character who is reviled in some circles, wouldn't it make more sense to let him stay dead?
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darkchibi07
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 3:28 pm
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Ahhh so many possibilities this could take, and there will always be some part of the fanbase that will get pissed. For example given the quality and hilarity of the school episodes, they could easily make this into a "fumoffu" type series!
Or adapt Nightmare of Nunnally. I'm so damn curious about that one.
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enurtsol
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 3:32 pm
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Unit 03.5-ish wrote: | Isn't it usually standard practice for a CLAMP show to only have two seasons at the most? |
AFAIK, CLAMP only provided the character designs. I wouldn't categorize it as a CLAMP show.
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TarsTarkas
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 4:01 pm
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If Marianne can exist in some quasi-state due to the Code, then there is always the chance that Lelouche is in the same state after being killed.
Lelouche doesn't have to come back to the material world to be a part of a new series.
Another question is whether the gift of the truth to Nunally at Lelouche's death, was a gift from Lelouche or a power of Nunally's.
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jeromeskee
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 4:07 pm
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This is awesome news. Code Geass, along with Gurren Lagann, was one of the landmark animes of recent memory. Sunrise has always been my favorite animation studio because of their awesome mecha-themed projects, and Sunrise definitely delivered with R2. Contrary to popular belief, there is still definitely room to expand the story imo.
I envision the new series focusing on a new generation of heroes, a la Zeta Gundam, ZZ Gundam, etc., with Lelouch and/or Suzaku perhaps playing more of a senpai role (a la Char in Zeta).
Realistically though, since production hasn't even started yet on the new series, we probably won't see new Geass anime until Spring of 2010 at the earliest.
All in all, I'm very excited for this project! Sunrise knows what the fans want.
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cmd598
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 4:09 pm
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nightjuan wrote: | Doesn't mean they have to be used every single time, that's only one possibility. |
That's why I said "precedents" Remember when Jeremiah was presumed dead...again and Marianne didn't have a geass as a cheap excuse to bring her back and spill a giant heaping load of crap all over the plot for example? R2 already set the bar pretty low on bringing people back from the dead.
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Since you mentioned Marianne, the first season of Code Geass had hinted at something being fishy there, since normally the "dead" can't maintain telepathic conversations with the living, like she and C.C. did.
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C.C. already had unknown powers and furthermore was a witch. Talking to dead people is pretty light stuff really, especially light of the fact that the person doing the speaking can't die and granted the main character with the power to tell anyone what to do. For all the hell we knew she, an individual possibly possessing any number of psychoses', was just talking to a voice in her head.
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K.o.R
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 4:37 pm
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Well as long as it doesn't become Code Geass Destiny I'll give it a chance. Heck I wasn't complaining about 12 "wham episodes" in a row at the end of R2.
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LiuXuande
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 4:55 pm
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Three things you guys are possibly ignoring/forgetting:
-Nightmare of Nunnaly
-Suzaku of the Counterattack
-Lost Colors
All CG adaptations that they could pull stuff from (though the last one not as likely since most of the story and set up is the same). They don't need to change R2's ending to do any of that.
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nightjuan
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 5:15 pm
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cmd598 wrote: |
That's why I said "precedents" |
Which doesn't really change my main point. This isn't a court of law, precedents do not establish any obligation to follow them. You do or you don't. None of that implies it would need to happen in this particular case, just like the fact the Gundam franchise had also "set the bar low" not just once but several times in the past didn't prevent the production of series where that didn't happen. It is a possibility, but not one that is inevitable.
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C.C. already had unknown powers and furthermore was a witch. Talking to dead people is pretty light stuff really, especially light of the fact that the person doing the speaking can't die and granted the main character with the power to tell anyone what to do. For all the hell we knew she, an individual possibly possessing any number of psychoses', was just talking to a voice in her head. |
That's all fine and good, but you have to admit that was all based on assumptions. Nobody knew the truth.
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Finny-chan
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 6:46 pm
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darkchibi07 wrote: | Ahhh so many possibilities this could take, and there will always be some part of the fanbase that will get pissed. For example given the quality and hilarity of the school episodes, they could easily make this into a "fumoffu" type series!
Or adapt Nightmare of Nunnally. I'm so damn curious about that one. |
OMG I was thinking that too making the third season a school life comedy like Fumoffu and Kallen can be the main character lolz
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Charred Knight
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 6:52 pm
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Splitter wrote: | Not a big surprise, but now the question becomes how much is Goro Taniguchi's dignity worth? |
The person whose Dignity on the line is Okouchi not Taniguchi.
I have heard one interview from Taniguchi, on the other hand Okouchi has made it clear that the ending is not ambiguous. Theres even a question where the intervewer compliments him on how gutsy the ending was, with Okouchi admitting that he was gutsy.
What the hell is he going to do if he makes it clear that everything he did is a lie? That his not the gutsy writer that he claimed to be? He lied in the guide?
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senbei
Joined: 29 Mar 2008
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 6:58 pm
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Lelouch vi Britannia is confirmed dead. Lelouch Lamperouge on the other hand may very well be alive and preparing for the sequel. Or we could have prequel about C.C.. More C.C. is never a bad thing
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nightjuan
Joined: 22 Jan 2008
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 7:05 pm
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Charred Knight wrote: |
What the hell is he going to do if he makes it clear that everything he did is a lie? That his not the gutsy writer that he claimed to be? He lied in the guide? |
Or, you know, Sunrise decided to ignore him and rewrite the ending to suit their own plans, if they revisit the same universe and don't just create a parallel story...it would then be a question of whether Okouchi is going to be brought back as a writer or someone else has to carry out those duties.
Still, I'm hoping that they are a little smarter than that and avoid the issue entirely.
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scortia
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 8:10 pm
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Why R3 (or an OAV) is completely possible after season 2's ending:
Lelouch got the Code that Charles wanted for himself. Charles "died", permanently, in the middle of R2 so he obviously didn't retain the Code. (I'm not pretending to know that entire alternate reality segment of R2. It made virtually no sense at all... just Sunrise being Sunrise.)
More evidence that Lulu got the Code is that when Nunally touched him as he was dying she had that rush of memories from Lelouch. CC had the same thing happen when she was touched because she had the Code.
And of course, the title of the series is "Code Geass". The ultimate is to have both, which Lelouch attained.
Lastly, Lulu is driving the hay cart. The end.
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