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Dextres
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Hmmm,
Well, if anything else, at least it's an interesting perspective on Anime Director Yamakan. |
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goatnuke
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This is the best laugh I've had in a while. The irony is too real.
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Jonny Mendes
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After all said and done what he means is:
Miyazaki got a adopted son. And if anime is dead because of Moe he was one of the directors that killed anime. Last edited by Jonny Mendes on Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:01 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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belvadeer
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I agree. |
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Fronzel
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Well...I'm very flattered but I can't say I know why Mr. Yamamoto is so fond of me. |
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VORTIA
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Yamakan was all about moe until the industry got tired of his inability to play well with others, so now he's crying with Okada about being old and out of touch, when both are at least partially responsible for the commercialized moe anime of today. Rather than an inciteful reflection on a shift in narrative styles, this is just two old guys griping becauase they're nostalgic for their former influence in the industry. Sorry guys, anime moved on, and the Gainax stock plot stipped being interesting after Gurren Lagann......
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Ambimunch
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Nah, you're right, anime is dead, in terms of quality at least. The volume of them is increasing, but the material and writing is being degraded. The storytelling of the 90s and 2000s are gone along with shows that genuinely have a message or life lesson to convey.
These days we get an overabundance of moe and slice of life crap about nothing, oversexualization of everything (in all entertainment, not just anime), and an overall lack of engaging stories. Hell, most anime these days are 12 episode advertisements for the manga, not to say that was never the case in the past, but these days they don't give a shit at making a competent show. Not to say that we don't get good stuff now, there is just very little of it. Why is it like this? Well, because that is what the fandom consumes and doesn't seem to have a problem with it, so they keep putting out crap. And don't get me started on this community. It's now polluted with incompetent keyboard warrior children, angry and unhappy people in their 20s, and whiny people in their 30s+ with a narrow minded mindset that everything new is bad. So is anime dead? Nah, it'll be around for a while longer. Is the age of good storytelling and quality shows dead? Yes, it's on a hasty decline. But what the hell do I know, I'm just a random guy. Now I'll just sit back and wait to be crucified for having an opinion. |
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WANNFH
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Well, is that view of future really just because of the situation on the market, and not because Yamamoto-san last dull and completely non-creative works like Fractale (when Yamakan was trying to be Miyazaki) and Wake Up Girls flopped to the bottom of the sales? Huh?
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KH91
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I can see why he feels that way. It is expected. At least he can feel comfort in knowing he joins Miyazaki in the meme that is "Anime is *insert here*" so he won't be alone now.
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Animechic420
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This dude is kinda right. There's too much moe nowadays. If you look back at anime like Ninja Scrolls, Vampire Hunter D, Ghost in the Shell, etc., those were the best of hardcore anime from the 80s and 90s. When the 2000s rolled around and anime became more popular, anime started marketing itself towards kids and teenagers.
Gone are the days of mature adult anime and in with the mostly family friendly stuff. |
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cloud8100
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Lol. Everyone acts like Miyazaki is the best thing ever. While we're at it, video games are dead, movies are dead and so is food. None of them are as good as they used to be.
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Jonny Mendes
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I had forget about Fractale. He was trying to save anime with that show, right? Looks like he quit from saving anime and jumped the bandwagon of "the anime nowadays is not my kind of anime so it must be dead" |
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meruru
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Seems like a bunch of sour grapes to me. Anime isn't dead just because it's now trending towards tropes you don't like.
People complaining about moe forget stupid tropes of yesteryear like girls pulling out giant hammers to hit guys with. Last edited by meruru on Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:18 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Angel M Cazares
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I guess the people who say anime is dead have never watched Penguindrum, Steins;Gate, Madoka Magica, Kill la Kill, Death Parade, Blood Blockade Battlefront, From the New World, Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinju and Psycho-Pass.
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Alabaster Spectrum
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The guy makes some points lately but I still don't understand why he figures himself any sort of authority on the industry and culture of Japanese animation and why he continues to be indulged. He's obviously an extremely bitter and petty person with a bone to pick so having him as the spokesperson on these things doesn't really help. I haven't been inspired by anime in a long ass time though for sure though I do still catch the odd thing. Storytelling just doesn't seem to matter anymore, stuff is looking cheap as heck and mass produced now where quality control also doesn't seem to be an issue and the powers that be strictly care about selling events and mobage gambling schemes really then quality entertainment that will actually draw some mainstream attention and praise.
The fanbase doesn't seem to care much either because it's too caught up in it's own petty infighting and tired cultural memes to give much proper feedback or function as much of an inviting community. Yeah you have some blips here and there like Your Name but other than that not much that has happened this decade indicates that anime has a future as quality entertainment in it's own right and just seems to exist now as a byproduct of what is needed to sell event tickets with the same old popular seiyuu, composers and mediocre at best writers or to get people addicted to mobile games with cute girls as the lottery prize. I also don't think even sites like ANN help much either as they're just so in bed with production committees that work these angles and IMO devalue anime as a concept or medium for entertainment nowadays and I've noticed a real tonal shift in it's editorials and staff positions on things to match up with that modern reality since the 2000's |
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