Forum - View topicNEWS: Love Live! Sunshine!! Tops Madoka Magica as #2 TV Anime BD in 1st-Week Sales Ever
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BlackPoint.
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They can really milk out this franchise for quite some years with new seasons, surprised they didn't already announced a 2nd season for it, though personnaly i didn't like it that much too much of a close copy to the original and then you simply cant help but compare all the little shizzle,
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Parsifal24
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Well this is good news I know some were fretting about sales but still good to see sales are strong
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WANNFH
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They will surely announce it in the live concert, like the first Love Live second season. |
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KH91
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Can't spell Love Live without domination. Now continue to shake that money maker.
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Kougeru
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this is really depressing. I hate bashing anime but this one literally did nothing but copy the first season with different characters and music. It wasnt even half as enjoyable since it was just rehashing so much. Then the final episode wasted a ton of time recapping. So many other anime deserve high sales and this isnt one. It's depressing because it shows how little effort really needs to be put into "art" to sell well. Just shows what people really want are cute girls dancing rather than real substance.
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AnimeLordLuis
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Well it's great to see that Love Live! is still doing great since I want more Love Live! for years to come.
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Afezeria
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CrowLia
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^He is probably concerned because if something that is so empty of substance and originality (like he claims LLSS to be, I haven't watched it so I can't make any judgements), then that would tell anime producers that they can just rehash their old successes over and over with little to no effort and still make a ton of money from it. Therefore encouraging the industry to choose this sort of effortless cashgrab over more original or ambitious projects
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Afezeria
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r0verandom
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I don't know if any of you who complain about sunshine being just "copy" of 1st season actually watched the anime, but no, sunshine isn't just copy. Of course, there are lots of similarities (it is a sequel after all) but there are lots of new stuff too (in story and characters). |
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SquadmemberRitsu
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SciasSlash
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Love Live Sunshine is a show about expectations. It plays constantly with the expectations that come with being a sequel, have the characters discuss the pain of having those expectations weighing you down, but also discuss the pain of having nobody expect anything from you. It is not a lazy cashgrab. In fact, it's existence as a sequel to Love Live is why its premise works so well. Maybe actually watch the show? |
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AnimeFlyz
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Question. Do I actually have to watch the original Love Live to watch and enjoy this show?
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VORTIA
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I did, and he's absolutely right. The music is great, the animation is great, but the characters aren't just copies of the first series characters' - they're deliberately & blatantly promoted as copies by the narrative! Out of thirteen episodes, only the one dealing with the seniors' overcoming their previous failure (episode 9 I believe) was any good. The rest of the series was a poor carbon-copy of the first Love Live's plot buried in a never-ending stream of callback shots, characters mimicking their more charming predecessors, and wistfully pining for the original show. The problem with Love Live Sunshine selling well is that it tells Sunrise that there's no need to try to recapture the magic. There's no need to make an original story, or create new characters, or try to connect with people emotionally, because they can just keep churning out animated dance numbers under the Love Live brand name and rake cash straight into the bank. It's a recipe for putting a franchise into decline right when it should be hitting its stride, and it's a damn, dirty shame. |
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ChestPains
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I'll admit at first Sunshine just pissed me off. Back when it was announced I thought it was pretty cool, they're passing the torch to a new generation or something. But as more and more material came out I realized that not only do some of the characters look like characters from the old show, it feels as if they just...
grabbed all personality and quirks from the original, wrote them on slips of paper, shuffled them and assigned them to the new girls I had written about this before on another site, and to a few friends, and it's still what upsets me the most about the show. In terms of characters, they are just so damn lazy. Sure, there is some development later on, but it works in the opposite way the original did it. They barely even overcome anything, and the entire premise from the start is "we want to be just like u's". So it's not surprising that at the end they really are just a copy of u's except with less memorable songs (u's had a strong start, who knows about Sunshine's future) and each subgroup being a copy of the old subgroups to some extent (Guilty Kiss being such an obvious BiBi clone should be unnaceptable). Animation was good as expected, everything was smooth and looked nice and cute, but it's such a poor lazy copy that relies entirely on saying "we can be just like the old show". You can romanticize that and call it a "show about expectations" but it doesn't change the fact that at the very core it was a cashgrab to sell 18 characters instead of 9 while putting barely any effort into the new 9 ones. And --apologies for the language-- half the cast has shit for personality. The biggest thing about the original wasn't just "singing schoolgirls and they're cute", it was that a bunch of people with a similar goal (an important one at that) would get together and form some kind of idol group (but not REALLY an actual idol group) to help save their school and in the process, know each other and care for each other as friends. The fact that there was a lot of emotion put into certain scenes really set it apart, as it wasn't simply "cute girls are singing", which was the case for Sunshine. EDIT: There were a few nice, emotional moments that didn't feel forced between all the "cute girls being cute" segments. Funnily enough almost all of them always came from the same character, as the rest of the cast had nothing to add to it. Now naturally I wouldn't say "cute girls are singing" is a bad premise, but for such a weak show to rely on the past show's success to push itself into the mainstream is just... not good. Could it have been good? Sure, had it not been for the points above. Was it good? In the technical aspect only. Was it a good sequel? Not at all. Was it a good spinoff? If you look at it that way, kind of. Was the best girl X or Y? "BEST GIRL" isn't an argument to defend the quality of a show especially when compared to its predecessor. Kudos to the company for making "easy money". Also this is funny to me: https://67.media.tumblr.com/b83c5ae4893d55e64f89db5d0c6257d2/tumblr_nkdoxhCndP1rhmrtwo1_500.jpg |
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