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INTEREST: Amazon Offers "Manga Model" of Kindle E-Book Reader, But Only in Japan




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MikeNeko San



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:24 pm Reply with quote
(Pssst - second paragraph from the end - "you're" not "your.")
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crosswithyou



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:12 pm Reply with quote
MikeNeko San wrote:
(Pssst - second paragraph from the end - "you're" not "your.")

I was going to say the exact same thing. This is like one of the cardinal sins of grammar, one which is unfortunately made much too often.

But hmm... Interesting......
I've never gotten into digital manga. When you download something, do you have it forever? Or is it kind of like streaming where you are paying for a service and it's not stored on your device? There's so much manga I want to read but I wouldn't have the space to store it all if I bought the books.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:20 pm Reply with quote
As I understand it, digital means "they still own it, you get to use it" until/unless they go out of business. With my regular kindle, that's the rule. If it is in my kindle, I don't have to be online, so it is stored there. But if Amazon lost the rights to something, it could be removed from my unit, I think.

I do like using my regular kindle for reading, even though it is not as nice as a paperwhite. Not as good a screen for black and white, and mine's battery only lasts 7 hours or so. My sister has a paperwhite, and she gets way more than a week. But that extra $150 or so is too much for an extra gizmo just for reading.

PS In the USA, Viz does have an app that works on a regular kindle, and they have first chapters for trial reading, to try and get you hooked. Almost all fighting plots or shoujo romance, so I didn't buy any. But it was almost as good as a paper book, for my two bits.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:28 pm Reply with quote
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Utsuro no Hako



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:48 pm Reply with quote
Nom De Plume De Fanboy wrote:
As I understand it, digital means "they still own it, you get to use it" until/unless they go out of business. With my regular kindle, that's the rule. If it is in my kindle, I don't have to be online, so it is stored there. But if Amazon lost the rights to something, it could be removed from my unit, I think.


You can backup your books to a computer, and there are ways of stripping the DRM in case Amazon ever stops supporting ebooks for some reason.
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crosswithyou



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:06 am Reply with quote
Nom De Plume De Fanboy wrote:
As I understand it, digital means "they still own it, you get to use it" until/unless they go out of business. With my regular kindle, that's the rule. If it is in my kindle, I don't have to be online, so it is stored there. But if Amazon lost the rights to something, it could be removed from my unit, I think.

Thanks for the info.

Yeah, if I'm going to pay for something, I'd like to keep it forever-- Not until I unsubscribe or whatever. =/ That'll be my biggest deterrent from buying digital manga.
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Vee-Tee



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:13 am Reply with quote
Good idea on the storage space. I was unfortunate to lose a Paper White recently to some glitch that bricked it, and our family gadget repairman thinks it was likely misreading/inflating some academic PDFS I had for university reading last year.
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Lord Dcast



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:44 am Reply with quote
Well, maybe it'll come to the west...maybe not...

Either way its a good incentive for people to learn Japanese in the meantime.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:46 am Reply with quote
crosswithyou wrote:
Nom De Plume De Fanboy wrote:
As I understand it, digital means "they still own it, you get to use it" until/unless they go out of business. With my regular kindle, that's the rule. If it is in my kindle, I don't have to be online, so it is stored there. But if Amazon lost the rights to something, it could be removed from my unit, I think.

Thanks for the info.

Yeah, if I'm going to pay for something, I'd like to keep it forever-- Not until I unsubscribe or whatever. =/ That'll be my biggest deterrent from buying digital manga.


You can back-up your books to your computer or a storage device. I don't see a future where Amazon is no longer dealing books. But you can back it up, just in case.

The biggest reason to go digital for books and manga is physical space. After years of buying books and manga, I simply have no place for them. What good is a book in a box in the garage.
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miken



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:38 am Reply with quote
btw: the new firmware should be out wordwide now. best update since a long time. stable and fast and some enhancements for manga reading:
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?s=be0cdd1dbc21a460ca321b09d52a9cfb&t=279528
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Thread_Alchemist



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:36 am Reply with quote
crosswithyou wrote:
Nom De Plume De Fanboy wrote:
As I understand it, digital means "they still own it, you get to use it" until/unless they go out of business. With my regular kindle, that's the rule. If it is in my kindle, I don't have to be online, so it is stored there. But if Amazon lost the rights to something, it could be removed from my unit, I think.

Thanks for the info.

Yeah, if I'm going to pay for something, I'd like to keep it forever-- Not until I unsubscribe or whatever. =/ That'll be my biggest deterrent from buying digital manga.


If you buy from DMP then you get a PDF of the book. I have digital editions of the Tezuka books and they are mine forever. (Or until I lose the file I guess.) With the Viz app even if they stop offering the book on their digital store you will still be able to read that book. I bought the first few books of Oresama Teacher digitally a couple of years ago and I can still read those book I paid for. I just can't buy any more of them because they don't offer the title digitally anymore. I haven't had a title that has gone away from my download folder through Viz's store. I'm also not aware of them losing the license for anything there though. (Apart from Oresama's digital sales.)

Digital is getting a lot better these days. This year I bought more digital titles than I did physical ones. I hope that info helped. Smile
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