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12skippy21



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:25 pm Reply with quote
Out of interest is underage drinking an issue in Japan? It is rarely represented in its media (and only rarely in manga).

Being from England underage drinking was the norm, usually starting from thirteen to fourteen at my school (back in the 2000s). Though I do see more kids smoking joints than drinking these days so maybe the drug of choice has changed (and I have seen it do far more damage than drinking ever did).
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meiam



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:49 pm Reply with quote
They realize the only question on anyone mind's is going to be "How much do I need to drink for me to start seeing her take off her cloths?". Laughing
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Mr. Oshawott



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:10 pm Reply with quote
In the U.S., at least three states are contemplating on lowering the drinking age to 18...

This makes myself wonder if our strict drinking laws really has helped reducing accidents and fatalities involving drunk driving or if they had little to no effect or just made them worse...
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Mikasa_su_casa



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:17 pm Reply with quote
Mr. Oshawott wrote:
In the U.S., at least three states are contemplating on lowering the drinking age to 18...

This makes myself wonder if our strict drinking laws really has helped reducing accidents and fatalities involving drunk driving or if they had little to no effect or just made them worse...

I think the problem is the culture of drinking to excess.
I remember hearing from a German teacher that Germans drank at younger ages than Americans but had more responsible drinking habits.
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Sparvid



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:52 pm Reply with quote
So, how long before someone turns this into a drinking game?
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Mr. Oshawott



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:18 pm Reply with quote
Mikasa_su_casa wrote:
I think the problem is the culture of drinking to excess.
I remember hearing from a German teacher that Germans drank at younger ages than Americans but had more responsible drinking habits.

I'm willing to bet that most parents' tendency of shying their kids away from alcoholic drinks instead of teaching them the good habits of managing their drinking explain why binge drinking has been so common among American college students.
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Afezeria



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Drinking problems is pretty...almost non existant in here, I guess, at least among the communities that I've lived in. I'm myself don't drink, and perhaps Chinese and Indian are more involved in these sort of things but accidents involving drunken men behind the wheels infrequently happened, as Malaysian drivers are extremely hostile themselves on the road without any needs to be under the influence. I'll never once met a person that is busy drinking alcohol, albeit I knew an acquaintance, close friend actually that used to consumed the discussed material due to having a dark past. Seeing cans and bottle on the roadside is plenty enough, however smoking is a really major problem here as even high schoolers smoke in the open, disregarding any races. I don't smoke myself, though I get quite furious upon seeing those that do, especially when they do it at a restaurant or someplace where there's a lot of children or sick people.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:53 pm Reply with quote
Mr. Oshawott wrote:
I'm willing to bet that most parents' tendency of shying their kids away from alcoholic drinks instead of teaching them the good habits of managing their drinking explain why binge drinking has been so common among American college students.


It many states, it's outright illegal for a parent to provide alcohol to their children. Even in states where it it's legal, in many places (in the US) there's a strong societal taboo against doing so. Even in states where there's not a strong absolute taboo, there's still strong customs about age and circumstance.

In my family (and generally in the South) it's acceptable to give a child of practically any age a sip (but no more) of beer. From the early teens it's acceptable to give a male a can (but no hard liquor) on special occasions (Fourth of July, family re-union, hunting trip, etc...). For males from the mid-teens having a beer after hard work becomes acceptable. Hard liquor for males doesn't really become acceptable until the very late teens. (Females - maybe a glass of wine starting in their mid-to-late teens. Beer and hard liquor not until the law says you can't stop them because they're adults.)
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H. Guderian



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:13 pm Reply with quote
Welcome back, Ellen. But a sober Bostonian? I thought she was a baseball fan. The two activities go together!!
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Hoppy800



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H. Guderian wrote:
Welcome back, Ellen. But a sober Bostonian? I thought she was a baseball fan. The two activities go together!!


I can't wait to see what Pixiv does to "enhance" the experience, think about it, don't drink and you get see her nude PSAs.
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:16 pm Reply with quote
Mr. Oshawott wrote:


This makes myself wonder if our strict drinking laws really has helped reducing accidents and fatalities involving drunk driving or if they had little to no effect or just made them worse...


With regards to having the drinking age pushed to 18? No.
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Mr. Oshawott



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:40 pm Reply with quote
BadNewsBlues wrote:
Mr. Oshawott wrote:
This makes myself wonder if our strict drinking laws really has helped reducing accidents and fatalities involving drunk driving or if they had little to no effect or just made them worse...

With regards to having the drinking age pushed to 18? No.

I'm assuming that "no" was directed at the former...Am I right?
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:37 pm Reply with quote
Mr. Oshawott wrote:
I'm assuming that "no" was directed at the former...Am I right?


That too as in the former case no one seems to realize that even with those laws on the books it doesn't stop some enterprising individual for getting smashed at home and jumping behind the wheel of a car or driving themselves to bar or restaurant getting smash there and still doing the same thing, the only thing that's changed in the intervening years is that people can now film themselves doing it, which itself is another problem.
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