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INTEREST: Kemono Friends Producer Asks Fans Not to Watch Anime Illegally


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CatSword



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:53 pm Reply with quote
Thankfully the show is available on Crunchyroll (outside of Japan) and Nicovideo (in Japan). Smile
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relyat08



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:29 pm Reply with quote
Yeah, it seems like no one within Japan or North America would have much of an excuse to pirate the series. It's a shame if those numbers are still high enough that this guy feels the need to make this request. :'(
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MarthKoopa



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:49 pm Reply with quote
Legal streaming services need to put in more effort to combat the piracy. Asking nicely won't fix the low bitrates, stuttering, buffering, framerate, and sometimes even colour range issues
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GuruBuckaroo



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:05 pm Reply with quote
My biggest problem with legal streaming services is the quality. I pay money for Crunchyroll every year, and Netflix, and I used to have a Funi subs-only subscription. I don't mind paying. But I might consider finding the Horriblesubs downloads if I can't reliably skip an intro I've seen a dozen times, or rewind to catch some wall of text I didn't pause quick enough to catch.

And whoever's in charge of "your name" - how about releasing the damned movie in the US? I'd buy it. Honest. Come on, it's been over a year.
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zrnzle500



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:19 pm Reply with quote
GuruBuckaroo wrote:
And whoever's in charge of "your name" - how about releasing the damned movie in the US? I'd buy it. Honest. Come on, it's been over a year.


Considering that Your Name's Bluray/DVD haven't been released yet in Japan (July 26 IIRC), we're going to have to wait some more (or import the Japanese release). As to why they took so long with the Japanese release, it's because it was in theaters for so long and the video distributors generally wait until the movie is out of theaters so as not to spoil the theatrical release.
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H. Guderian



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:20 pm Reply with quote
Seems he has more of a beefy with the illegal streaming sites. Making a profit off it is the problem, as I still support fansubbers here and there.

With places like Crunchyrolly dropping the quality on a whim, one must be wary of cutting all your ties with the fansubbers, because at least they're gonna be who we run to when the now-profitable companies decide to take a dump on their paying customers.
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Shar Aznabull



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:50 pm Reply with quote
If you're going to illegally watch anime, at least put in the effort to torrent it. Illegal streaming sites are pure scum.
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DeTroyes



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:55 pm Reply with quote
I think the biggest hurtle the legal streaming sites have is that the illegal sites offer a one-stop, catch-all source for anime, whereas the legal sites do not.

If you want to stay legal you need to go to a myriad of different domains (at least 8 by my count), all of which offer different line-ups of programs not all available elsewhere and most of which are behind paywalls of some sort (or in the case of AnimeStrike, a double-paywall). Most fans I know are not adverse to paying for access to anime, but in exchange they want the selection to be as wide-ranging and comprehensive as they can get. So far only Crunchyroll & Funimation have come the closest to fitting that bill, but even so in recent years they've seen AnimeStrike and Netflix snatch up some of the more desirable properties, and thus have not been as comprehensive sources as they used to be. The illegal sites, on the other hand, offer one place for everything, and that catch-all level of access makes them very attractive.

This doesn't even get into the fact that the illegal sites also tend to have shows not available any way else. If you want to watch an older classic like Record of Lodoss Wars, you can either shell out a few hundred dollars for the out-of-print discs on Ebay, or you can stream it illegally. To say nothing of never-released classics like Future Boy Conan and SPT Layzner.

I'm not sure how this can be resolved, tho. Ideally a few of the legal sites will have to merge so their catalogs can coalesce (as Crunchyroll and Funimation seem to be doing), but frankly I don't see much room for that to happen. Hulu could buy-out Crackle and in turn be gobbled up by Netflix, I suppose. Or Amazon goes shopping and picks up some of the smaller fish like AnimeNetwork and Daisuke. Or any combination of the above, I don't know. But at the moment I don't think its reached that stage yet. Which means that if you want to catch everything that's new and cool, you will either have to pay 5 or 6 different vendors, or you can go to one single (albeit pirate) site and watch to your heart's content. So long as this remains true, I don't see the illegal streaming sites to be going away anytime soon.

ADDENDUM: Edited to remove the name of Anime-Voldemorte.


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Kougeru



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:04 pm Reply with quote
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it just allows illegal uploaders to make money through advertisements.


Not if people use adblock.


As for the comment above me, Hulu was doing a GREAT job getting anime from many different companies, for awhile. Then Hulu changed their rules or something (I'm sure someone can correct me on their reasoning) but most companies seemed to have stopped adding to Hulu and outright removed a ton of stuff.
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DeTroyes



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:51 pm Reply with quote
Kougeru wrote:
As for the comment above me, Hulu was doing a GREAT job getting anime from many different companies, for awhile. Then Hulu changed their rules or something (I'm sure someone can correct me on their reasoning) but most companies seemed to have stopped adding to Hulu and outright removed a ton of stuff.


I think it was just a simple matter of audience. While Hulu had many shows available, the number of people watching anime on Hulu was insignificant when compared to their other offerings. At some point they decided the money was better spent facilitating other content, so Hulu ceased to be a good catch-all source. Their anime selection is still better than many (like Netflix and Crackle), but it isn't nearly what it was.

About the only thing they haven't done is jump on the exclusive-simulcast anime bandwagon, but the moment they think they can make a buck doing so you know that will change.
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DmonHiro





PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:57 pm Reply with quote
I agree with him and I belive he's talking about illegal streaming sites. Anyone who uses those should be ashamed. I'm not saying torrenting is some noble Robin Hood-esque thing, but at least it's not giving money to the uploaders.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:13 pm Reply with quote
DmonHiro wrote:
I agree with him and I belive he's talking about illegal streaming sites. Anyone who uses those should be ashamed. I'm not saying torrenting is some noble Robin Hood-esque thing, but at least it's not giving money to the uploaders.


Not to mention, in his county, the anime was shown on TV, and now it isn't anymore, so everyone waits for the disk, unless they go to cheap-@$$ bugged up pirate anime sites because they want to show off.

Me, I normally would go to Crunchyroll--where they stream all those series here, that air on regular TV there, but we can't watch them on regular TV here--if I wanted to watch the whole series again any time I liked, but...once is enough for now. I'll wait for the second season.
That's one thing the US understands about anime that Japan doesn't, and one thing the US understands about online streaming that...hasn't quite technologically picked up in Japan yet.
See, Fukahara, it started with this thing called "Netflix", and then one of the anime sites decided to get in on it too...
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wastrel





PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:07 pm Reply with quote
I must apologize. I already watched it illegally (though not from those fake streaming sites; I don't stream).

I realize, now, that I am unworthy of anything from Kemono Friends due to my horrible transgression. I will not watch it again. I will take the CD with the OP song that I bought and throw it away. The same for my Mewhan's CD with the ED song on it; I'll throw it away too. I've already preordered the soundtrack CD and that nice set of mini clear files from a Japanese retailer, so I don't have them yet, but I'll throw them away when they get here.

I hadn't ordered any of the Nendoroid figures yet, so I'm good there, and I certainly won't get any of the HappyKuji prize figures via Yahoo Japan Auctions either -- I promise. Or any other merchandise associated with the show of any kind whatsoever.

At least not until the BD/DVDs of the show are legally released here in North America. Then and only then will I get any merchandise of the show, which is only fair. Of course, by then all the merchandise will be out of stock and I won't be ABLE to buy any of it -- but that's what you want, right?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:13 pm Reply with quote
wastrel wrote:
At least not until the BD/DVDs of the show are legally released here in North America.


I assumed while reading this that you were in one of the countries that this show was not available to watch legally.

Kemono Friends is streaming legally on Crunchyroll. You don't have to wait for BD/DVDs.
http://www.crunchyroll.com/kemono-friends
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KH91



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:16 pm Reply with quote
DeTroyes wrote:
I think the biggest hurtle the legal streaming sites have is that the illegal sites (like [REDACTED]) offer a one-stop, catch-all source for anime, whereas the legal sites do not.

If you want to watch an older classic like Record of Lodoss Wars, you can either shell out a few hundred dollars for the out-of-print discs on Ebay, or you can stream it illegally from [REDACTED].


Is exactly saying the name of an illegal website not part of teh rules (located above the section where you type your comment) stating: "No bootlegs, fansubs, scanlations, etc."? Anyway, since you exactly stated the illegal websites name, I found a new place to watch free anime and not give the creators get any money. Very Happy spoiler[or may be it's part of your plan to get the site terminated?] Anyway,spoiler[Sarcasm because I had to point the lack of common sense.]
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