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sk1199



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:26 am Reply with quote
Why no mention of the fact that one episode never made it to the TV screen? It's an interesting side story but it had some scenes that were definitely not safe for viewing in public.

So, for those of you who haven't seen the series on DVD, you haven't seen the whole series.
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Saku-dono



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:38 am Reply with quote
The DVD version is already good enough, but I'm glad Outlaw Star is getting the bluray treatment. Now, if only Trigun could be granted such privilege as well.
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Greed1914



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:55 am Reply with quote
sk1199 wrote:
Why no mention of the fact that one episode never made it to the TV screen? It's an interesting side story but it had some scenes that were definitely not safe for viewing in public.

So, for those of you who haven't seen the series on DVD, you haven't seen the whole series.


I remember being surprised when I watched the Bandai DVDs because I thought maybe I had missed an episode on TV. After seeing it, I realized that Cartoon Network must have opted to cut it entirely, even for the adult swim broadcast. They were generally more conservative about anime content at the time.


It's interesting that the review pointed out how much the show seemed like a product of its time. A couple of years ago, I was talking to someone at a convention about Outlaw Star, and he basically said he couldn't get into the show because it felt "so '90's."
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:07 am Reply with quote
OS & Those Who Hunt Elves are probably my favourite "it was cool in the 90s" TV anime. Feels its age in a way that Bebop & GITS etc don't, but at the same time modern anime just doesn't make silly, fun fantasy/sci-fi action adventure stories like they did then - though they still fully embrace the "I can't hit a woman, so I'll humiliate her into submission" trope Sad
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Wrangler



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:10 am Reply with quote
I love Outlaw Star, the music, the story, the characters, the setting.
It congels together. It's too bad they left out the missing episode, though fan-service fueled episode, it had some important and funny moments in the episode.

At least it get's a blueray edition so people can continue to enjoy it.

I often wondered if the Manga version continued on where anime left off.
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Angel M Cazares



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:30 am Reply with quote
Outlaw Star was one of the first shows I watched when I became a true fan of anime about 8-9 years ago, and I really liked it. I probably still like it enough to get this release, but I know that the emotional impact and personal investment will not be the same as in the past. Regardless, I am glad for the biggest fans of the show, who can finally enjoy Outlaw Star on BD,

Saku-dono wrote:
The DVD version is already good enough, but I'm glad Outlaw Star is getting the bluray treatment. Now, if only Trigun could be granted such privilege as well.

I think the opposite. Outlaw Star is worth on BD because the transfer is very good. On the other hand, because Trigun has bad and ugly visuals, I don't see much of a point in wanting it on BD,
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MarshalBanana



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:40 am Reply with quote
I love this show, used to watch it back on CNX in 01. Though after many re-watches I have fount that the show does loose its momentum around episode 12, and never really recovers. That said the stand alone stories are ultimately the most memorable part of the whole show. The Hot Spring episode was the first piece of echi Anime I ever saw.

By the way, did they use the Anime Limited disc authoring, or did they make their own.
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Animegomaniac



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:47 am Reply with quote
Greed1914 wrote:

It's interesting that the review pointed out how much the show seemed like a product of its time. A couple of years ago, I was talking to someone at a convention about Outlaw Star, and he basically said he couldn't get into the show because it felt "so '90's."


Is it more like a "I don't watch movies in black and white" thing or more a "we don't make things look like that anymore for a reason" kind of thing? I rate abstracts versus abstracts and impressionists against impressionists so pointing out its art style as a product of its time as a negative tells me more about the viewer than the work itself.

It could also be a matter of cell animation technique versus what they won't do with computer colored animation or "when was the last time you've honestly seen black in anime?" Or: "Cowboy Bebop doesn't look like it was made in the 90s while Outlaw Star does". No, no. Excel Saga with its early CG paint job doesn't look like it was made in the 90s but if you have copious amounts of black rather than "day for night" dark blue, you got cell. In fact, you may even have Cell but that's only in the case of DBZ.

Am I the only one who doesn't like Super because it's so not cell animation? It just doesn't look right, SM Crystal had a similar problem. Never mind the design, they're just not doing it right.

Still, I'm more of an historian than just a viewer so "it's so of its time" things just will not bother me. Other things... like Cowboy Bebop's insistence that Spike and the gang will not profit from their work... do. Of course, we've been telling stories a lot longer than either animation or film so wrong moves in that regard will always bother me more than even animation mistakes.

Outlaw Star will always get points in my book by averting that little "status quo" detail, especially how their last "filler" job funds the rest of the series.
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CatSword



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:08 pm Reply with quote
I wish Funimation could have included the Toonami dub/version on the discs like Discotek did for one release of Blue Submarine No. 6. It's considered "lost media" now (has a Lost Media Wiki page and everything) except for a few episodes that turned up online. There are also surely some people who'd like to have it for nostalgia purposes or showing their kids.
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Usagi-kun



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:29 pm Reply with quote
I can still hear that opening song in my head and Melfina's ending theme still chokes me up in a weird but nostalgic way. I remember scouring places on the Internet for both the English and Japanese versions of the latter, waiting three or four days for them to...'appear' on my Quicktime player, transfered to a Windows Media, and burned to CD where I listened to them over and over.

I love this show and eventually shed my (far less than legal) ways to aquire series like this one, and now the Blu-ray sits proudly on my shelf as a testament and reminder of my early anime days. 90's vibe or not, I couldn't care less. To remember that feeling of something new and wonderous, an accidently discovered hobby of 'Japanese cartoons', whose stories formed the foundation of my fandom and love of anime today.

I agree that I had hoped for more extras, but seriously, this was a pre-order for me with no doubt.

Edit: missed an adjective, and again for spelling
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Desa



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:03 pm Reply with quote
This is an HD remaster done right. It's a thing of beauty. Completely unlike the travesty that was The Big O upscaled Blu-rays. Season 1 of The Big O could've looked this good, but they cheaped out and now a proper remaster is unlikely to ever happen. :(
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MarshalBanana



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:24 pm Reply with quote
Animegomaniac wrote:
Greed1914 wrote:

It's interesting that the review pointed out how much the show seemed like a product of its time. A couple of years ago, I was talking to someone at a convention about Outlaw Star, and he basically said he couldn't get into the show because it felt "so '90's."


Is it more like a "I don't watch movies in black and white" thing or more a "we don't make things look like that anymore for a reason" kind of thing? I rate abstracts versus abstracts and impressionists against impressionists so pointing out its art style as a product of its time as a negative tells me more about the viewer than the work itself.

It could also be a matter of cell animation technique versus what they won't do with computer colored animation or "when was the last time you've honestly seen black in anime?" Or: "Cowboy Bebop doesn't look like it was made in the 90s while Outlaw Star does". No, no. Excel Saga with its early CG paint job doesn't look like it was made in the 90s but if you have copious amounts of black rather than "day for night" dark blue, you got cell. In fact, you may even have Cell but that's only in the case of DBZ

Still, I'm more of an historian than just a viewer so "it's so of its time" things just will not bother me. Other things... like Cowboy Bebop's insistence that Spike and the gang will not profit from their work... do. Of course, we've been telling stories a lot longer than either animation or film so wrong moves in that regard will always bother me more than even animation mistakes.
It sounds like they mean 90s as in the common art style and troupes of the time, rather than how it was animated. The art style that Outlaw Star uses, and other shows of the era example:
can be very off putting to some people, I've heard complaints about the way faces were drawn back then. It doesn't bother me, so I struggle to see the problem. But it is definitely a style of the time.

Also it's spelt cel, short for celluloid, which was what cels were made of in the olden days.
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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:53 pm Reply with quote
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Save for the ridiculous 90's style and 4:3 aspect ratio, the visuals hold up alongside today's animation quite well.

Why is the aspect ratio even an issue? Anyway, it's definitely one of the cleanest and sharpest remasters out there, better than Escaflowne or Bebop. Sunrise still has the rest of their late 90s analog catalog to finish up, but they're in no hurry.
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:16 pm Reply with quote
Greed1914 wrote:


I remember being surprised when I watched the Bandai DVDs because I thought maybe I had missed an episode on TV. After seeing it, I realized that Cartoon Network must have opted to cut it entirely, even for the adult swim broadcast. They were generally more conservative about anime content at the time.


When Outlaw Star aired on Adult Swim they basically aired the edited version of the series along with the Tenchi Muyo OVA.
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SnowWarren



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:30 pm Reply with quote
MarshalBanana wrote:

By the way, did they use the Anime Limited disc authoring, or did they make their own.

I'm fairly sure they did their own.
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