Forum - View topicINTEREST: Comiket 92: Inside the French Doujinshi Booth
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#861208
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Is it really smart to do it by country, though? What if your work doesn't fit in with your country's anime fans?
There should be more than one booth for this, too, but I'm sure that will happen. Also, with international artists going to Japan and getting their own booths. |
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CatSword
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I've always been intrigued by how big manga is in France. Also jealous, since their large market means they get a lot of stuff faster than the US does...as well as some stuff the US never gets at all (DEAD Tube, Doraemon, Nana to Kaoru).
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Cptn_Taylor
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Comics (French and European) have always had a good market in France. The French view comics as a form of literature. So there is no social stigma associated with reading comics, even if you're an adult. Especially if you're an adult. The respect given to this art form then translated equally well to Japanese comics ie manga. Of course it also helps that the French are avid readers. Maybe second only to the Germans. So this all translates to a market that is receptive to Japanese comics. |
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SamuraiNinjaDragon
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This looks quite interesting! Even the two comics that were mentioned looked interesting enough to read.
If I remember right from reading it somewhere, Italy also tends to get anime and manga a lot faster than the USA and even stuff the USA never gets at all. Looks like Italy and France both got the right idea. 
That's so cool! I wonder if Italy is like this as well since they seem to love anime and manga as much as France does.
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Nodz
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France was the first non Asian country to get some anime back in the 70s-80s if I'm not wrong. I think France got Saint Seiya the first and were the ones who called it "Knight of the Zodiac" ("Les chevaliers du zodiaque").
Hokuto no Ken, Sailor Moon, Ranma 1/2, Dragon Ball, Mister Ajikko but also lots of magical girls anime, lots of Nippon Animation book adaptations anime etc... were first broadcasted in France, so mangas followed in the 90s and were quite successful (with the order of the pages reversed for the western readers). Right now, the manga industry is still very successful in France and new titles are constantly arriving every month. |
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SamuraiNinjaDragon
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If I understand this site I found one day: https://www.awn.com/mag/issue1.5/articles/goslingeuro1.5.html
It looks like Italy got it first in 1973 and then France got it in 1974. Not sure about the USA though since the article is only about Europe. I can't find info on when we Americans got anime and manga. It looks like Italy's first anime series was Go Nagai's UFO Robot Grandizer. While France's first anime series were Ribbon No Kishi (Princess Knight), translated as Le Prince Saphir, and Jungle Taitei (Jungle Emperor) as Le Roi Leo. The article also mentions Germany getting it in the early 1970s but it doesn't say what year exactly. But it does say that Germany's first anime series was Mach Go Go Go (Speed Racer). The article also mentions Spain getting anime in 1980, and their first anime series was Mazinger Z. Overall, it's an interesting article. (hope all this made sense and cleared up anything you were wondering about  )
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Jose Cruz
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I read this data on the relative size of comics in the publishing industry for each country by a manga industry representative: US ------ 2% of publishing industry is comics France - 8% Japan -- 40% France has the largest comics industry in the Western World relative to it's publishing industry although it is still small if compared to the Japanese comic industry. Also, I read there that about 38% of comics published in France in 2015 were manga, I wonder which proportion is in the US? I guess not very different considering comic book sales are 400 million dollars and manga sales are 120 million dollars, or about 30%. |
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Kraz
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Mostly cliché :p There are numerous articles about this period in France because of nostalagia, there was as much backlash against anime and manga as in other european countries. I don't know which country got anime first, but in France after the big sucess of Goldorak (UFO Robot Grandizer) and Albator (Captain Harlock) in the late 70s, there was a huge anime war in the 80s. And war was not an understatement, people just went to Japan to buy as many shows as possible, sometimes not watching even a single minute of them (Hokuto no Ken was shown the wednesday afternoon, next to a pony show...). I'm not sure others countries got anime to that point, but in the mid 80s Berlusconi launched a TV channel in France with a lot of anime, so I guess it was the same in Italy at least. In the early 90s Berlusconi's channel closed down, less competition, more regulation (quota on imported shows etc...), AB sitcoms (very cheap sitcoms, very good audience, and as it was french-made so it had no problem with all the regulations). That killed most anime on TV (except big hits like Dragon Ball Z, anime began to be mostly rerun), but manga (and anime VHS at that time) got a huge boost : you could easily buy what you watched on TV in any book store, and discover lots of new one at the same time, Akira also helped a lot (the manga started in 1990, and the film boosted it even further in 91). That means anyone born in 70 to 90 growed up with manga and anime, even if they don't care about them anymore. Mangas are popular for 14-18 years old, cheaper than BD. Found on a crunchyroll 2016 news : "According to ICv2’s Milton Griepp, the valued of the American comics market has topped $1 billion. He estimated the size of the manga market at $85 million last year, up 13% from the year before." France comics market is around €500 million, around 20-25% should be manga that make it a market of around €100-125 million, could not find numbers for Italia or Spain :/ In 2011 there were articles saying France was 50% of the european market for manga. |
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