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NEWS: World Trigger: Smash Borders Smartphone, PS Vita Game Ends Service in February




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Felcis



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:31 am Reply with quote
Oh, that's sad and surprising. It actually seemed to be a rather well-made and popular license mobile game, form what I heard. I never got to play it, sadly.

I hope this isn't a bad omen for a return of the manga. :<
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TichoSlicer



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:57 am Reply with quote
yeah... byebye manga ;/ i really liked the manga... #FeelsBadMan
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WANNFH



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:51 am Reply with quote
Felcis wrote:
Oh, that's sad and surprising. It actually seemed to be a rather well-made and popular license mobile game, form what I heard. I never got to play it, sadly.

I hope this isn't a bad omen for a return of the manga. :<

It's not bad thing for manga, when it's still on hiatus because of author health. Japanese mobage that live for more than half a year are generally quite rare, and here also the Vita support - which japanese developers abandoned pretty much.
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Mr. Oshawott



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:26 am Reply with quote
Sad to see that the game of World Trigger is coming to an end. Sad It was fun while it lasted.

Hopefully the shut down of the game won't have any serious effect on the possible return of the manga.
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leafy sea dragon



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:18 am Reply with quote
Mr. Oshawott wrote:
Hopefully the shut down of the game won't have any serious effect on the possible return of the manga.


It won't, at least any more serious than Daisuke Ashihara's health. He is literally unable to draw at the moment without intense pain.

There is surgery to deal with it (Masahiro Sakurai, creator and director of the Super Smash Bros. games, was afflicted with a type of arthritis too, though a different kind), but it's expensive and only a few doctors are skilled enough to do it right and do it consistently. Sakurai could afford it, but I don't think Ashihara could. Most likely, he is in some sort of therapy right now to let his joints heal.

It really sucks to come down with a medical condition or injury you can't fully recover from that directly interferes with your ability to do what you like to do. Ashihara was already arthritic when he started drawing World Trigger; the rigorous work schedule of a manga illustrator intensified it.
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marshmallowpie



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:23 pm Reply with quote
Even though I saw this on Twitter, when I saw "World Trigger" on here, I wanted to believe it might be good news, if only for a second. I hadn't played it in a while, but for this type of mobile game, it really was good, unlike some others that are hardly games at all. It's too bad there isn't any way for it to live on in some form.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:32 pm Reply with quote
leafy sea dragon wrote:
It won't, at least any more serious than Daisuke Ashihara's health. He is literally unable to draw at the moment without intense pain.

THANK YOU for sharing this info. Now that it's coming up on a year since the manga stopped, I'd been wondering what happened to him. I knew he was on hiatus for health reasons but I was curious what the actual issue was. On the one hand, I agree that that's really sad, OTOH I'm happy to hear that at least the specific issue isn't life threatening.

I wonder if he's considered trying to find someone to draw while he continues the story. I would expect that to be difficult but not impossible. The ideal is of course for him to eventually return to how it was previously, but personally I never considered the art for World Trigger to be it's absolute highlight factor. (I'm not saying it's bad, but I like it for it's story)
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leafy sea dragon



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:04 pm Reply with quote
HeeroTX wrote:

I wonder if he's considered trying to find someone to draw while he continues the story. I would expect that to be difficult but not impossible. The ideal is of course for him to eventually return to how it was previously, but personally I never considered the art for World Trigger to be it's absolute highlight factor. (I'm not saying it's bad, but I like it for it's story)


Personally, I think only he could draw the manga the way he intends. Someone else could step in, but it won't look quite the same (as it is with Boruto or the Dragon Ball Super manga, both of which, to me, look rather stiff and forced). That being said, his condition means he cannot storyboard either, which is the standard with a writer-artist team even if the writer has little to no artistic skill. (Tsugumi Ohba's storyboards for Death Note, for instance, are sometimes literally stick figures, which you can see in "How to Read.")

I actually enjoy the look of World Trigger. It's not the best in the magazine, but it was one of the first to be drawn strictly digitally, and it has this clean and smooth look that makes extensive use of line thickness I find appealing. Ashihara uses less linework for his characters, and sometimes settings (depending on where it's set), than most of his fellow manga artists. Don't get me wrong, I also love the detailed art in manga like JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and Claymore, but Ashihara's style provides a nice contrast.

I have no idea when he'll recover, if at all. There's been no word on what kind of treatment he's been getting, nor is there much detail other than arthritic joint pain on his arms that was getting worse as he continued to draw. I have no doubt he really, really wants to keep doing World Trigger though, considering he powered through for so long in spite of the pain (he'd occasionally mention it in the author's notes section at the end of the magazine).
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Evernessince



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:17 pm Reply with quote
leafy sea dragon wrote:
Mr. Oshawott wrote:
Hopefully the shut down of the game won't have any serious effect on the possible return of the manga.


It won't, at least any more serious than Daisuke Ashihara's health. He is literally unable to draw at the moment without intense pain.

There is surgery to deal with it (Masahiro Sakurai, creator and director of the Super Smash Bros. games, was afflicted with a type of arthritis too, though a different kind), but it's expensive and only a few doctors are skilled enough to do it right and do it consistently. Sakurai could afford it, but I don't think Ashihara could. Most likely, he is in some sort of therapy right now to let his joints heal.

It really sucks to come down with a medical condition or injury you can't fully recover from that directly interferes with your ability to do what you like to do. Ashihara was already arthritic when he started drawing World Trigger; the rigorous work schedule of a manga illustrator intensified it.


I'm really certain the surgery would be covered under Japan's universal healthcare and because he makes less money he would have to pay less. The three tiers are 10%, 20%, and 30% of the cost. He likely falls into 10 or 20%. It's not like America either where the whole system is setup to make the insurance companies rich because Japan actually regulates health care costs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_system_in_Japan
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leafy sea dragon



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:13 pm Reply with quote
Evernessince wrote:
I'm really certain the surgery would be covered under Japan's universal healthcare and because he makes less money he would have to pay less. The three tiers are 10%, 20%, and 30% of the cost. He likely falls into 10 or 20%. It's not like America either where the whole system is setup to make the insurance companies rich because Japan actually regulates health care costs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_system_in_Japan


Interesting. I don't know what kind of arthritis it is though. There are numerous kinds, some of them curable, some of them treatable, some of them incurable but temporary, some of them incurable and permanent. He may not necessarily have gotten surgery as it may have been caused by something that surgery cannot fix (and the surgery for the kind Sakurai got, calcific tendonitis, is so expensive that even at 10% or 20%, it's out of the budget of many).

I can only hope that he can reach a condition where he can get back to drawing World Trigger, as it's pretty clear this is his passion. He's been hospitalized for close to a year now though (and, as can be seen from this article, World Trigger is at the stage where people are forgetting it exists), so I suspect it's something pretty serious.
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